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Old Fri Jan 13, 2006, 08:13pm
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Fourth and 10 from team R’s 40 yard line. K1’s punt hits the ground at team R’s four yard line. The ball is almost at rest when R2 kicks the ball through the end zone. Ruling:
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Old Fri Jan 13, 2006, 09:52pm
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Depends if the kick was intentional or unintentional.

Unintentional: Touchback
Intentional: PSK - 1st and 10 from the 10.
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Old Fri Jan 13, 2006, 10:17pm
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Could the result be 1st and 10 for R AT THE 2?
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Old Fri Jan 13, 2006, 11:10pm
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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Depends if the kick was intentional or unintentional.

Unintentional: Touchback
Intentional: PSK - 1st and 10 from the 10.

intentional but do you do half the distance? or the spot is behind the basic spot, right?

[Edited by tpaul on Jan 13th, 2006 at 11:12 PM]
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Old Sat Jan 14, 2006, 12:49am
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Intentional: PSK - 1st and 10 from the 10. ?????
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Old Sat Jan 14, 2006, 01:18pm
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In both cases the kick went into the endzone so the result of the play is touchback. When the final result of the play is a touchback penalty enforcement is from the succeding spot.
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Old Sat Jan 14, 2006, 02:13pm
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In both cases the kick went into the endzone so the result of the play is touchback. When the final result of the play is a touchback penalty enforcement is from the succeding spot.
Ummm ... the BASIC spot is the succeeding spot, not necessarily the enforcement spot.
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Old Sat Jan 14, 2006, 05:04pm
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In both cases the kick went into the endzone so the result of the play is touchback. When the final result of the play is a touchback penalty enforcement is from the succeding spot.
Ummm ... the BASIC spot is the succeeding spot, not necessarily the enforcement spot.
I happen to agree with you middleman!
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Old Sun Jan 15, 2006, 02:07pm
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If it was intentional, it is an illegal kick. The basic spot is the SSpot since the final result was a TB, but the foul by A was behind the BS, so enforce from the spot of the foul. We would enforce 1/2 distance from the 4, so A's ball 1-10 from the 2 yard line.
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Old Sun Jan 15, 2006, 09:26pm
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If it was intentional, it is an illegal kick. The basic spot is the SSpot since the final result was a TB, but the foul by A was behind the BS, so enforce from the spot of the foul. We would enforce 1/2 distance from the 4, so A's ball 1-10 from the 2 yard line.
100% correct......
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Old Sun Jan 15, 2006, 10:17pm
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Say the kicking is unintentional. On a punt that travels into the end zone, the kicking team provides the force that sends the ball into the receiving team's end zone, which is a touchback. But here, the receiving team provides the force to send the ball into its own end zone. Could this case therefore result in a safety?
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Old Sun Jan 15, 2006, 11:04pm
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Say the kicking is unintentional. On a punt that travels into the end zone, the kicking team provides the force that sends the ball into the receiving team's end zone, which is a touchback. But here, the receiving team provides the force to send the ball into its own end zone. Could this case therefore result in a safety?
Force is not a factor on kicks going into R's endzone. (Atleast I got one thing right in this thread..tehee)
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Old Mon Jan 16, 2006, 01:33pm
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In both cases the kick went into the endzone so the result of the play is touchback. When the final result of the play is a touchback penalty enforcement is from the succeding spot.
Ummm ... the BASIC spot is the succeeding spot, not necessarily the enforcement spot.
Sorry, brain went on vacation and typing fingers didn't.
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