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Fourth and 15 from K's 26. K34 commits kick catching interference at R's 40 but R45 still gains possession of the ball at R's 40 and runs to R's 45 where he is tackled.
R accepts the penalty making it 4th and 28 for K at their 13. When does the clock start? If possible, please cite a rule reference. |
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Under NF this is a loose-ball play and thus may be enforced from the previous spot. The other choice for enforcement is R taking the ball at the spot of the foul. Obviously if the penalty is declined it is R's ball at the R 45.
3-4-2a and 3-4-2b3 say that you should start the clock on the RFP. |
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don't have my books here, but that seems confusing to me, I would think since it was a punt on the last play that it would start on the snap...
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devdog - there is no rule I'm aware of that says the clock starts on the snap after a punt.
The relevant rule says to start it on the snap after AWARDING A NEW SERIES to B... which didn't happen here. Fed - start on ready. NCAA - not an issue - R's ball, start on snap.
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Why did you dtop the clock then.... I do in fact think the clock was stopped to award B a new series... I cna think of no othere reason why we would stop the clock... therefore the clock shall start on the snap! |
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Here we go again... We stopped the clock for an official's timeout to administer the penalty. We did not award R a new series, so we didn't stop the clock for that. We didn't award K a new series either.
So by federation rules, we should start the clock on the RFP. Rule 3-4-3c says that the clock shall start on the snap.....if the clock was stopped because: c. Either team is awarded a new series following a legal kick. If the penalty had not been enforced or R would have taken an awarded fair catch instead of the distance penalty, then R would have the ball 1st and 10; then the clock would start on the snap. |
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CBrockett - do you not stop the clock in FED to administer the penalty? That seems confusing, and likely wrong.
Seems to me you stop the clock due to the penalty, walk it off, and then start the clock. Seems rather straightforward to me, and I'm puzzled at the confusion of doing anything differently.
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