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Old Tue Aug 30, 2005, 10:15pm
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Here is question number three guys what is the ruling? Please help....

B 1 intercepts a pass in his own end zone and attempts to run it out. He is hit while still in the end zone and fumbles. The ball rolls forward into the field of play and out of bounds at the B 4 yd. line. While the ball was loose during the fumble, (a) A4 committed a personal foul, or (b) B9 blocked below the waist at the 10 yd. line, or (c) B9 blocked below the waist in the end zone. How are the penalties enforced if accepted?
Sorry, yankeefan...you're not even close.

Basic spot is in the end zone, so in a.) A's penalty would be administered from the goal line...1st and 10 for B from the 15.

In b.) and c.) B's penalty results in a safety.
I gotta disagree on this one. In A, B and C the end of the run was in the end zone, making the basic spot the 20 (touchback). It is a running play that is beyond the neutral zone and the fumble is considered part of the running play, not a loose ball play.
In A the 15 yards will put the ball at the 35 1st and 10 for B.
In B since the foul is behind the basic spot then it will half the distance 1st and 10 from the 5.
In C again the basic spot is the 20 yard line, however since the foul occured in the end zone you would actually have a safety.


10.4.5 with subsection(d) reads "The basic spot is the succeeding spot: d. When the final result is a touchback."

This can only be referring to the final result of the play...it can't read that the basic spot is the succeeding spot if the basic spot is in the end zone. Otherwise, 10.5.4 would never occur "If the offense...commits any other foul for which the penalty is accepted and measurement is from on or behind its goal line, it is a safety."
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