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Old Mon Jul 18, 2005, 08:18am
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on an offensive pass interference play,incomplete pass, if it is 3rd down and 10 to go on the A 30 yard line, what are the choices given to the B defense?
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Old Mon Jul 18, 2005, 08:35am
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The choices would be.

A. Decline the penalty and have 4 and 10 from the 30

B. Accept the penalty and have 4th and 25 from the 15. Loss of down penalty.

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Old Mon Jul 18, 2005, 08:39am
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Unlike the NF rule, under NCAA there is no loss of down provision if it's accepted. 3rd and 25 from the A15. If declined, 4th and 10 from the A30.
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Old Mon Jul 18, 2005, 10:29am
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And unlike NF or NCAA, there is no loss of down for offensive pass interference under NFL rules. Loss of ten from the previous spot.
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on an offensive pass interference play,incomplete pass, if it is 3rd down and 10 to go on the A 30 yard line, what are the choices given to the B defense?
Since you mentioned 3rd down, I will amend the sitch with a Canadian ruling to be on 2nd down, as we only have 3 downs.

The penalty is L15. Option:

  • 3D/10 @ A-30

  • 2D/25 @ A-15
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    Old Mon Jul 18, 2005, 02:29pm
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    Re: Canadian Ruling

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    on an offensive pass interference play,incomplete pass, if it is 3rd down and 10 to go on the A 30 yard line, what are the choices given to the B defense?
    Since you mentioned 3rd down, I will amend the sitch with a Canadian ruling to be on 2nd down, as we only have 3 downs.

    The penalty is L15. Option:

  • 3D/10 @ A-30

  • 2D/25 @ A-15
  • But if it was on 3rd down in Canada, these would be the options

  • Team B 1D/10 @ A-30

  • 3D/25 @ A-15


  • I'm sure that almost always in this sitch, B will take option 1.
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    Old Mon Jul 18, 2005, 09:42pm
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    But if it was on 3rd down in Canada, these would be the options

  • Team B 1D/10 @ A-30

  • 3D/25 @ A-15


  • I'm sure that almost always in this sitch, B will take option 1.
    Yes. That part is obvious. In any code and on last down, an incomplete pass where OPI exists must have an option to allow a change of possession.

    The learning part here is that OPI is 15 yards and that OPI is not restricted.
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    Old Tue Jul 19, 2005, 07:32pm
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    Re: Re: Re: Canadian Ruling

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    But if it was on 3rd down in Canada, these would be the options

  • Team B 1D/10 @ A-30

  • 3D/25 @ A-15


  • I'm sure that almost always in this sitch, B will take option 1.
    Yes. That part is obvious. In any code and on last down, an incomplete pass where OPI exists must have an option to allow a change of possession.

    The learning part here is that OPI is 15 yards and that OPI is not restricted.
    What does that mean? "OPI is not restricted"
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    Old Tue Jul 19, 2005, 10:25pm
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    What does that mean? "OPI is not restricted"
    ref18 and I work Canadian ball. Here, every foul except for PI is restricted as you approach the goal line.

    For example, a Team B 15 yard foul applied from the B-16 yard line goes half the distance. However, if this same foul was DPI, the half the distance restiction does not apply and you go to the 1, plus an automatic first down.

    Similarily, OPI is not restricted either.
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    Old Tue Jul 19, 2005, 10:27pm
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    JugglingReferee,
    thanks for that info....I never heard it put that way before...thanks
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    Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 07:41am
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Canadian Ruling

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    Quote:
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    What does that mean? "OPI is not restricted"
    ref18 and I work Canadian ball. Here, every foul except for PI is restricted as you approach the goal line.

    For example, a Team B 15 yard foul applied from the B-16 yard line goes half the distance. However, if this same foul was DPI, the half the distance restiction does not apply and you go to the 1, plus an automatic first down.

    Similarily, OPI is not restricted either.
    What happens if you have DPI from the B-14? Is that a TD?
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    Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 01:26pm
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    Yes.


    LOL - no, it also goes to the 1. We have a 1 yard neutral zone - nobody can be in the 1 yard at the snap. Because of that, we can't scrimmage within the 1 yard line.

    DPI less than 15 yards is a spot foul. One of only a few that we have.
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    Yes.


    LOL - no, it also goes to the 1. We have a 1 yard neutral zone - nobody can be in the 1 yard at the snap. Because of that, we can't scrimmage within the 1 yard line.

    DPI less than 15 yards is a spot foul. One of only a few that we have.
    So if a runner is tackled inside the 1 yard line you place the ball at the 1?
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    Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 03:20pm
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    We have a 1 yard neutral zone - nobody can be in the 1 yard at the snap. Because of that, we can't scrimmage within the 1 yard line.
    Out of curiosity, from what points is that 1 yard measured?
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    Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 03:40pm
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    Yes, if a ball carrier is tackled inside the 1, the ball is spotted at the 1. This is true at both ends of the field.

    The 1 yard defining the neutral zone is measured from the tip of the ball in the direction the offense is going, to 1 yard in advance of that tip.
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