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Jaysef Wed Oct 27, 2004 01:15pm

one more question...
 
If 10 break the huddle, and A tries to run a man on the field as they approach the LOS, is that Ill. Sub.? Does the rules not state that all 11 must be within 15yds of the ball when huddle breaks?

Seef

Snake~eyes Wed Oct 27, 2004 03:33pm

Re: one more question...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jaysef
If 10 break the huddle, and A tries to run a man on the field as they approach the LOS, is that Ill. Sub.? Does the rules not state that all 11 must be within 15yds of the ball when huddle breaks?
The rulebook just states that player must be momentarily within 15 yards of the ball after the ready and before the snap. It's illegal proecdure, 5 yards.

BayouUmp Wed Oct 27, 2004 04:14pm

7-2-1: After the ball is ready for play, each "player" of A must have been momentarily, within 15 yards of the ball before the snap.

I believe the intent of this rule was to prevent a Hideout WR from entering the field just prior to the snap and being uncovered. If A11 enters the field and comes within 15 yards of the ball and then takes position in the formation, you got nothing.

If A11 enters the field and never comes within the 15 yards, you have Illegal Procedure. If this same player had left the field during the same dead-ball period and then re-entered, you'd have Illegal Sub.



Jim S Wed Oct 27, 2004 04:17pm

Washington: Closed fist for 11. Twirl index finger up for more, down for less.


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