Back and Forth

bdavid48661 · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 30, 2004, 09:25pm

Can a quarterback cross the neutral zone and retreat back behind the neutral zone and throw a legal forward pass?

SoGARef · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 30, 2004, 09:48pm

Yes! The only restriction is that the passer must be in or behind the neutral zone, with both feet, when the ball is released. Rule 7-5-1

Snake~eyes · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 30, 2004, 10:13pm

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Originally posted by SoGARef
Yes! The only restriction is that the passer must be in or behind the neutral zone, with both feet, when the ball is released. Rule 7-5-1

Agreed.

PSU213 · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 30, 2004, 11:20pm

Yes, over and back is legal in NF football (where are you overandback?).

JRutledge · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 30, 2004, 11:48pm

Isn't this illegal in college?

Peace

JugglingReferee · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 05:36am

Quote:

Originally posted by bdavid48661
Can a quarterback cross the neutral zone and retreat back behind the neutral zone and throw a legal forward pass?

Legal.

waltjp · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 06:28am

Quote:

Originally posted by bdavid48661
Can a quarterback cross the neutral zone and retreat back behind the neutral zone and throw a legal forward pass?

Legal. Just remember, there is no defensive pass interference after the first pass is complete but the restrictions for A are still in place.

Dommer1 · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 07:16am

Foul in college. Any forward pass thrown after the ball has crossed the NZ (in player possession mind you!), is illegal in the NCAA book.

mcrowder · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 08:53am

What a bizarre rule. Let me ask 2 related questions then...

Lineman #59 receives a legal handoff, runs 5 yards past the LOS, returns back behind the LOS, and throws a pass. Illegal man downfield?

Lineman #59 receives a legal handoff, runs 5 yards past the LOS, pitches to QB #11, who immediately throws a pass. Illegal man downfield?

Dommer1 · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 09:03am

If the pass is illegal, there is no foul for ineligble receiver downfield. That becomes a foul only if the pass is legal.

Dommer1 · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 09:07am

And to stretch it a little bit further:

1&10 on A 20. A1 fumbles the ball on A19, and the ball rolls to the A 21 (crosses the NZ). The ball is muffed (by A or B) at the A 21, and the ball rolls back behind the NZ. A2 picks up the ball at A 19, and throws a forward pass.

Legal. The ball crossed the NZ, but was never in player possession beyond the NZ. Therefore legal.

SouthGARef · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 10:54am

A's QB can throw a completed pass for 20 yards and then the receiver, chuck it back to him, and the QB can throw it again for all I care. Another one of those WACKY NFHS rules. This is one of the rules (which are few) that I have great disgust for. It's not real football.

chiefgil · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 11:00am

In NHFS rules there is no restriction on how many passes can be thrown during a scrimmage down, just so long the passer is behind the NZ.

Snake~eyes · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 01:15pm

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Originally posted by SouthGARef
A's QB can throw a completed pass for 20 yards and then the receiver, chuck it back to him, and the QB can throw it again for all I care. Another one of those WACKY NFHS rules. This is one of the rules (which are few) that I have great disgust for. It's not real football.

Well how many times do you need to use this rule in football? I have never used it.

mcrowder · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Oct 01, 2004, 01:18pm

Dommer, you have several posts above yours saying that even if the ball is IN possession past the NZ, and it returns to behind the NZ, it can be thrown. Then you imply (twice) that it's not legal.

And no one answered my question. If the lineman passes the NZ, pitches it back behind the NZ, does he then also have to get back to the NZ before a pass can be thrown?