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Old Mon Sep 13, 2004, 05:36pm
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We tried the flag thing without success. The problem is that we can't be sure that the other wing remembered to throw it in the right direction. Thus, we now do the following on snap infractions. After the whistle-flag both wings subtley place a hand on the thigh of the side of the offending team. If they are both the same, then the WH will proceed. Any disagreement and we get together. Comments?
Do you tell WH number of offender?

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Old Mon Sep 13, 2004, 05:54pm
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Do you tell WH number of offender?

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When a number is available, and we all try to have numbers but may not always get them, it is provided to the WH and offending sides wing simply because the coach is usually asking for a number. The reasoning behind giving the number to the corresponding wing is so we aren't shouting numbers across the field. This isn't the NFL and we don't need to bring any further attention to the penalty-maker, he probably already feels bad enough.
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Old Mon Sep 13, 2004, 06:56pm
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Do you tell WH number of offender?

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When a number is available, and we all try to have numbers but may not always get them, it is provided to the WH and offending sides wing simply because the coach is usually asking for a number. The reasoning behind giving the number to the corresponding wing is so we aren't shouting numbers across the field. This isn't the NFL and we don't need to bring any further attention to the penalty-maker, he probably already feels bad enough.
I've never understood this. Working basketball, we call a foul on the player and it's ANNOUNCED over the PA! Who cares who knows if a kid was holding or whatever?

I like the change in the NCAA where the numbers are announced -- it lets the TV cameras find the foul for a replay.

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Old Tue Sep 14, 2004, 03:40am
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If your conference/league has decided that they want the calling official to give the signal, so that the TV people can find the foul on the tape and have the replay ready sooner, then do it. If that's not the case, get to the R and report it there without signaling.

I too think it was about time to get the numbers included in the announcement in NCAA games. As someone said, the do it in basketball. Perhaps football players are more sensitive than basketball players? Should give numbers in NF as well, but I guess we'll have to wait for that to happen.
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It depends on the foul if I signal it or talk to my WH about it. If it is a false start a signal works as 95% of the time everyone sees the offender anyways. Something like holding or PI I will go talk to him.

When I work the WH I will work it the same way.
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Old Tue Sep 14, 2004, 11:14am
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Should give numbers in NF as well, but I guess we'll have to wait for that to happen.
I don't really agree with that, here's my issue on it. If we had microphones I'd be fine with it but all we're doing is wasting more breath as the coach asks the wings which player did it, most of the time the coaches don't even pay attention to what the penalty was and have to ask the wing anyways.
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Old Tue Sep 14, 2004, 01:26pm
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As a BJ, when I have a delay of game, I blow my whistle, throw my flag and give the delay signal, since the R is about 30 yds away from me. As a wing, I don't use signals, I run it in.
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Old Tue Sep 14, 2004, 01:29pm
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If your conference/league has decided that they want the calling official to give the signal, so that the TV people can find the foul on the tape and have the replay ready sooner, then do it. If that's not the case, get to the R and report it there without signaling.

I too think it was about time to get the numbers included in the announcement in NCAA games. As someone said, the do it in basketball. Perhaps football players are more sensitive than basketball players? Should give numbers in NF as well, but I guess we'll have to wait for that to happen.
In basketball, you must give the number to report the foul so it gets applied to the individual.

In FB, as R, I don't say the number, but I make sure the wing has it for the coach.
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