Two Questions

[mikesears]

I have two questions from my high school varsity level game on Friday.

1st play
After team A scores on a long run or pass, they begin to huddle. As the R, I am taking care of getting up to the huddle, signaling untimed down, etc. Team A has now been in the huddle for 10 seconds or so (I think they couldn't decide if they were trying for 1 or 2 points). As I turn around to begin counting players, a team A player quickly moves out of the huddle and immediately heads over to the sideline because he is the twelfth man in the huddle. As he is exiting the field, team A breaks the huddle with the remaining 11 players. Of course team B is screaming that they can't break the huddle with 12 players.

Game-wise, would anybody here flag this as illegal substitution?

I didn't flag it because it didn't decieve anyone and I had no idea when that player had entered the huddle.

2nd play

This is more of a hypothetical question based upon a kid's explanation to his coach about why he fouled in the game.

Down and distance are really unimportant to this question.

A1 is running 20-25 yards ahead of a lineman after a long gain (or touchdown). Lineman A76 is pursuing a defender and as he approaches him from behind, he trips over his own feet and solidy contacts pursuing defender B1 with first contact in the back (a) above the waist (b) or below the waist, and knocks him down.

Are you flagging?



(This is hypothetical because the player didn't trip. He blocked the defender in the back and knocked him to the ground and THEN tripped and I flagged it).