Should Coaches Rate?

[Ed Hickland]

I am interesting in hearing the pro and cons of coaching rating officials.

Do you think coaches ratings should be used in promotion, playoff assignments, etc.?

Why or why not?

[kentref]

I don't have a problem with coaches rating officials as long as it is paired with other "ratings" from non-coaches. In other words, don't evaluate officials just on what the coaches think. Have other officials, etc. involved in the process as well.

What kentref mentioned is how they do it here in Nebraska, when it comes to giving out postseason assignments.

[JasonTX]

Coaches don't want us to have any influence in their promotion or demotion so I wouldn't want them to have an influence on mine. In our chapter the coaches are asked to rate us based upon our performance not based upon the result of the game. One game the winning teams coach rated me 5 out of 5. The losing teams coach rated 1 out of 5. Which one do you use? In most cases the coaches aren't even watching the officials as they are watching their players. In order to rate an official you have to be an expert at mechanics and that would require watching the officials. When we are rated by coaches we ask that they put comments on the rating card and these ratings are strictly for the officials to review to see what improvements they can make.

[Mike Simonds]

In our league a few of us are working on a system.

When I went to officiate in another part of the state last year (as part of an official's exchange program the state association implemented) I was impressed with how the private school league does things.

Officials rate coaches (we did this as a crew after the game) and the coaches rate the officials. Also, there is at least one observer from the official's association and I believe there is at least one observer from the league itself.

The best rating system (and the most fairest IMHO) is one that includes officials, coaches, league authorities, athletic directors, etc.

It must have worked for me: I got a review that pointed out the good things I did and the areas where I needed to work-on. Its a great motivator to know that people care enough about you to compliment you but also try to help overcome your weaknesses...

[Mike Simonds]

I did get a state play-off assignment this year. One of the observers said I earned it which made be feel great.

I think unbiased observers from the league and other officials make the best and least partial observers.

However, I also believe that you need to include the coaches, mainly because its important to be rated from many different points of view.

I believe that we should be rated for every game.

The reason why ratings should be done every game is because its the best way to make us improve and standardize the proper mechanics and rules applications.

[JasonTX]

Originally posted by Mike Simonds


However, I also believe that you need to include the coaches, mainly because its important to be rated from many different points of view.

I definitely agree there should be some sort of rating system. Using officials as the observers is in my opinion the best method. As I stated previously the coaches at least in my neck of the woods don't know much of anything about officiating and its mechanics. Very few would know whether or not a penalty was correctly adminstered or if the official was out of position. In my opinion the only portion of a coaches observation that you could possibly use is the coaches impression of the officials professionalism towards the coach

[Snake~eyes]

Coaches ratings should have very little effect on your post season assignments and/or advancements. Personally, I believe that the ratings should be used for improvement purposes only. In otherwords they have to write out comments and not just check 1-5. That's me though.

[JMN]

I am not in favor of coaches rating officials primarily for 3 reasons:

1. Most coaches can't connect an official with a name; especially difficult when working assignments vs. crews as we do

2. Coaches do not understand mechanics, philosophy, and many don't know the rules. How can they rate you on these fundamentals when they do not have a general, let alone thorough understanding of the criteria for determining the ratings?

3. Ratings will clearly reflect their emotions which many times are governed by whether they win or lose. We provide games cards that we encourage coaches to use to rate us per game. It's amazing how good we are on the nights that a coach wins and how terrible we are on the nights that they lose.

I remember back when I was coaching, we were asked two questions on the ratings forms for officials. We were asked to give a score for those officials we had for our games, and then we were also asked to check them off if we felt they were post-season caliber officials. I lost just about every game, but still rated the officials on their quality. Every one of the officials that I had a chance to rate, I gave high ratings and recommended them for postseason work. I think about 3/4 of the ones I checked for postseason actually ended up doing some postseason games.

[Ed Hickland]

Originally posted by Ref Ump Welsch
I remember back when I was coaching, we were asked two questions on the ratings forms for officials. We were asked to give a score for those officials we had for our games, and then we were also asked to check them off if we felt they were post-season caliber officials. I lost just about every game, but still rated the officials on their quality. Every one of the officials that I had a chance to rate, I gave high ratings and recommended them for postseason work. I think about 3/4 of the ones I checked for postseason actually ended up doing some postseason games.

That's interesting.

1. How did you come up with a score?

2. Do you think other coaches who rated officials used the same or similar criteria?

They asked us to rate them on a scale of 1 to 5, with 5 being the best. As for other coaches, I have no idea how they handled it. What I did was look for professionalism, game management, and mechanics (I was a ref who quit to become a coach-never again-came back to reffing).

[JasonTX]

Originally posted by Ref Ump Welsch
They asked us to rate them on a scale of 1 to 5, with 5 being the best. As for other coaches, I have no idea how they handled it. What I did was look for professionalism, game management, and mechanics (I was a ref who quit to become a coach-never again-came back to reffing).

The coaches in our area use the same 1 to 5 scale but these ratings are nothing except for self improvement. They have no effect on our games. I once worked a game and during the pregame with the coach I noticed on his desk that the rating card was already filled out. Some were given a 2 and others a 3 and we haven't even worked the game yet.

[Bob M.]

REPLY: Very interesting exchange. I don't especially like the idea of coaches rating officials. It doesn't happen formally here in NJ, although I'm certain that our assignors do get informal calls from coaches.

However, if any state/organization does formally solicit input from coaches, I would recommend that they develop a separate questionnaire that does not use the same rating scale or questions as an officiating supervisor would use. While the supervisor's rating would be in terms of rules, mechanics, etc., a coach's rating should be related solely to areas of the official's required and necessary interaction with him, e.g. questions related to the pregame meeting between the referee and coach ("Did the referee meet with you prior to the game? Y - N") or an official's professional demeanor dealing with the coach and his team. Maybe even a question regarding the official's appearance. But...Don't ever ask a coach to comment on the officials' application of the rules or his application of approved techniques, or his ability to officiate playoff caliber football. He just does not have the tools to comment on such matters.

[mikesears]

In Illinois, coaches are required to "rate" officials after every varsity game. They rate us on a scale of 1 to 5 with the following applying to those ratings...
1. State Finals Qualified
2. Sectional Qualified (2nd round)
3. Regional Qualified (1st round)
4. Varsity Qualified
5. Sub-Varsity Only

These are used in conjunction with other ratings and factors to determine playoff assignment and promotions.