Hard a$$ WH

[Bob M.]

Originally posted by sm_bbcoach


On our crew, we do the following: count 12, recount. If 12 again, reach for flag, then let loose. If a TO is called by anyone,before the flag, go wiht the TO, if not, go wiht the flag. The NF wording we key on is deception. Was it intentional? Wrong person called in /out. IF the players figure it out and get them out quickly, give them benefit of doubt. I have had coaches thank us (opposing that is) because they do not want it either on them. It has worked for us.

REPLY: When the opportunity presents itself, I pay particular attention to the subs in and replaced players out. If those numbers aren't equal, I give the team a few seconds to figure it out. We don't use "deception" as the determining factor for whether or not we flag the infraction. If they have twelve (or more) on the field with no one attempting to remove himself, then we flag it. The only alternative would be to let the play go with more than eleven and that not only is contrary to Federation principles for dealing with the situation, it also excessively penalizes the offending team. Just my opinion...

However, if the game situation doesn't allow me the luxury of watching the subs and replaced players, I do use your method of counting, counting a second time and then flagging it.