High-low combination?

[Robert Goodman]

As the ball is snapped, A1, starting on the line, blocks B1 at or below the knees. B1 is deflected slightly from his charge, but continues on his feet. A2, starting immediately behind A1, seeing B1 coming, stands his ground and uses palms-forward technique, taking a short step sideways to more squarely get into B1's path, to contact him above the waist.

Is this a high-low combination block of the type either Fed or NCAA disallows?

Does it make a difference if you know A2 is carrying out an assignment by blocking B1 in that manner?

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

As the ball is snapped, A1, starting on the line, blocks B1 at or below the knees. B1 is deflected slightly from his charge, but continues on his feet. A2, starting immediately behind A1, seeing B1 coming, stands his ground and uses palms-forward technique, taking a short step sideways to more squarely get into B1's path, to contact him above the waist.

Is this a high-low combination block of the type either Fed or NCAA disallows?

Does it make a difference if you know A2 is carrying out an assignment by blocking B1 in that manner?

Seems like (considering the way you've worded your question), these would be two separate and independent blocks, so high-low is not a relevant factor, or appropriate consideration.

Can't tell what A2 is thinking, but what his plan, or intention might be, it's his action we're supposed to be observing.

[JRutledge]

I'm all kinds of confused as to what you are asking. Are you basically saying that the defender made contact with the offensive player after being blocked by another player? If that is the case, then I am not sure I would consider that a "block."

Peace

[BIG UMP]

A1 and B1 have to be engaged when B2 blocks. As I read your description B1 has either avoided or disengaged from A1 when A2 blocks him.

No foul if I am interpreting correctly.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I'm all kinds of confused as to what you are asking. Are you basically saying that the defender made contact with the offensive player after being blocked by another player? If that is the case, then I am not sure I would consider that a "block."

The plan is for the blocking back to act as backup behind the lineman who's making an at-or-below-the-knees block. If the lineman knocks the opposing lineman down, the back doesn't make contact. If the lineman doesn't knock the opposing lineman down, the back is ready to block. The contacts might occur in quick succession, but only according to the defender's charge.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

The plan is for the blocking back to act as backup behind the lineman who's making an at-or-below-the-knees block. If the lineman knocks the opposing lineman down, the back doesn't make contact. If the lineman doesn't knock the opposing lineman down, the back is ready to block. The contacts might occur in quick succession, but only according to the defender's charge.

None of that sounds like a foul. Not even sure why I would consider this illegal in any way.

Peace

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

The contacts might occur in quick succession, but only according to the defender's charge.

A chop block is illegal because of the high potential for catastrophic injury to the blockee. If I can’t tell there’s an obvious separation between the two blocks, it’s a foul every time.

Why don’t you just put that back on the line and use a legal doubleteam block, instead of trying to game the rules?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by CT1

A chop block is illegal because of the high potential for catastrophic injury to the blockee. If I can’t tell there’s an obvious separation between the two blocks, it’s a foul every time.

Why don’t you just put that back on the line and use a legal doubleteam block, instead of trying to game the rules?

Because we couldn't run the other plays we want from that formation. A2 takes the snap on some of those plays. (A2 is the quarterback, A1 is the snapper.)

A1 & A2 could instead combine to each block "half" of B1, but if at the snap B1 moves toward the side of him that A1 expected to block, A2's effort would be wasted, and B1 might still defeat A1's block.

P.S.: All of football consists of gaming the rules.