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bisonlj Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:28pm

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 1020774)
The worst thing about this is having to "officiate to replay" in some games, but using our normal "When In Doubt" philosophies in others.

Based on conversations I've had with D1 and NFL officials that is not necessarily true. They are instructed to officiate as they see it using "When in doubt" when necessary, because you never know when replay will malfunction. There may be some of this, but those situations would be rare and not difficult for a newer official to replay to handle.

ajmc Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:57pm

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 1020960)
The coaches video the games.

Think of all the fun you'd have explaining to Coach A, why you're reversing (confirming, negating) a call on the field after watching Coach B's video. Then again, that might be easier than ruling on dueling videos taken by each team.

CT1 Fri Apr 20, 2018 06:23am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1020961)
And those are not very good angles.

Peace

Correct. Imagine trying to determine if a runner stepped OOB on the home team sideline using the press box camera. All you'll see is the back of heads.

Or, whether the ball broke the plane of the GL. Good luck on that one from either the press box camera or the end zone "lift" camera.

ilyazhito Fri Apr 20, 2018 08:30am

The replay systems will probably have some sort of goal line cameras, as well as end zone and 50 yard line views. DVSports or another company might also sell sideline cameras, to create a minimally viable system for instant replay.

bob jenkins Fri Apr 20, 2018 09:07am

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Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1020968)
The replay systems will probably have some sort of goal line cameras, as well as end zone and 50 yard line views. DVSports or another company might also sell sideline cameras, to create a minimally viable system for instant replay.


In order to make this work smoothly, they should have volunteer referees and camera operators at all grade school games so they can get used to this.

Texas Aggie Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:36am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1020961)
And those are not very good angles.

Peace

It isn't just the angles. The video we get, even from the big schools, isn't very good. If it isn't in 1080p or better, from the distance it is shot, it is virtually useless for most puposes.

The lighting in the stadium is one of the big issues. I can tell you from shooting pics at HS stadiums that only a few stadiums have even decent lighting. The only place I shot that I had the light I wanted was the old Texas Stadium (former Cowboys home) and schools only played there in the playoffs.

CT1 Wed Jun 06, 2018 06:17am

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Originally Posted by john5396 (Post 1020951)
Who is the winner in this? The kids... Nope, The officials.... Nope, or DVSports (Ding Ding Ding)????

I'd say so. DVSports' price is $3500 for the first year's lease, $1500 for each year thereafter, and that's for only two cameras. Additional cameras are $500/year each. In addition, each camera will require a trained operator to get the best look. Very few schools will be willing to make that kind of commitment.

It's my opinion that the Executive Director and Director of Officials are tired of taking so many late Friday / early Saturday phone calls from coaches complaining that they got jobbed. Now, if the school wasn't using replay, they have an easy out.

KWH Sat Jun 09, 2018 02:40pm

Good Luck with your experiment Alabama, but unfortunatly...
 
...the odds of taking a 30.06 outside, firing at the Moon and actually hitting the Apollo 11 landing site are much better then "Replay" having any chance of ever being added to the NFHS Football Rules Book!

CT1 Sun Jun 10, 2018 07:18am

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Originally Posted by KWH (Post 1022269)
...the odds of taking a 30.06 outside, firing at the Moon and actually hitting the Apollo 11 landing site are much better then "Replay" having any chance of ever being added to the NFHS Football Rules Book!

That may be true right now, but I suspect it will eventually be a "by state adoption" addition. NFHS's "customers" (i.e., coaches and supporters) will demand it.

HLin NC Sun Jun 10, 2018 07:42am

My alma mater is struggling to get funds to buy additional helmets and new uniforms. This will devolve into a haves and have nots situation. It all sounds good when DVS or whoever breezes in to your governing body's board/committee meeting and puts on the dog and pony show.

JRutledge Mon Jun 11, 2018 06:34am

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 1022278)
That may be true right now, but I suspect it will eventually be a "by state adoption" addition. NFHS's "customers" (i.e., coaches and supporters) will demand it.

This sounds like the shot clock argument in basketball. Yes people say they want it, but do not have the money to make it happen.

Peace

KWH Tue Jun 19, 2018 01:04pm

I agree
 
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Originally Posted by john5396 (Post 1020951)
Who is the winner in this? The kids... Nope, The officials.... Nope, or DVSports (Ding Ding Ding)????

Exactly!!


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