ND @ Texas Targeting or not?

[JRutledge]

What do you think? Some talk about this last night from officials at that level.

Peace

[Rich Ives]

I kept yelling "call it" at the TV but it didn't help.

[SWFLguy]

Wonder what officiating organization worked that game. I'd have flagged it for sure.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by SWFLguy

Wonder what officiating organization worked that game. I'd have flagged it for sure.

ACC on-field (Gary Patterson's crew)

Big XII replay

[CT1]

Of course it is. It's exactly the type of play the rule was made for -- forcible contact to the head or neck area.

It's also the type of play that we need to get out of football if football, as we know it, is to survive.

[HLin NC]

My crew chief from last night is a former D1 official and current conference observer. The discussion indicated that the highest levels say it was not targeting.

[The Roamin' Umpire]

So, our guidance (NFHS rules) is that, even without targeting, hits like this on a defenseless player where the defender is clearly looking to make a hit and not a tackle should be called as a PF for unnecessary roughness. Does this not exist in NCAA?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by The Roamin' Umpire

So, our guidance (NFHS rules) is that, even without targeting, hits like this on a defenseless player where the defender is clearly looking to make a hit and not a tackle should be called as a PF for unnecessary roughness. Does this not exist in NCAA?

This was not an unnecessary hit at all IMO. He hit him as the ball was coming and actually jarred the ball lose. I would only call this targeting in a NF game.

Peace

[OKREF]

It for sure wasn't a PF for hitting a defenseless player. Really close on targeting but the receiver is moving downwards, I think from contact from behind( I haven't rewatched video), and UT player turns his body so he doesn't hit him with his head. There is no launch, he doesn't crouch and lunge upwards, no lowering of head, and I don't think he leads with the helmet. The replay official even said there wasn't enough to go to video and have a review.

[APG]

Just want to note that hitting a player who fits the criteria for a defenseless player is not, in of itself a penalty.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by APG

Just want to note that hitting a player who fits the criteria for a defenseless player is not, in of itself a penalty.

Exactly. And in our state we were told that "This is still football, you are going to get hit from time to time." We were told plays that are unnecessary and forcible contact need to be addressed. He was hit necessarily here for sure and a result was the pass attempted to be caught when hit.

Peace