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You have other things to watch for? Sure, you do.
But you still need to know if there's IF -- that's a wing's call, nobody else's. You're counting backs regardless of how the rule's written. (1) Fewer than 7 on the line? Now you need to know how many are on the field. (2) 5 in the backfield? Now you don't need to worry about the number of A players on the field. Your job's actually easier! |
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What I've said at least twice now, which hasn't gotten through cause someone doesn't ever want to hear, is if the rule was changed there's be no reason for the wings to have to pick up the count of the offense if the rule was the same as the NCAA rule. They could just count the defense and then count the backs. |
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In our state, the wings count the team on their sideline all night. R counts offense, BJ counts defense. U has numbering 50-79. There are two officials counting each team on each play.
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You have this completely flipped. It is faster to count backs than it is number of linemen. If the rule requires no more than 4 in the backfield, it doesn't matter how many players the offense has. As it stands now, in Fed, if you want to count backs to determine legality, you need to pick up the count from the R or U. Otherwise you need to count the linemen which isn't all that easy sometimes. Not to mention the fact that if the offense is lined up with a missing lineman, it's going to be a foul and it's a dumb one. Not a problem in NCAA. Having called high school under both rules, I'd much rather have the NCAA rule. It would be a simple and pain free change to make. |
Fed still requires 7 on the line? Really??
Do ya'll play with leather helmets and no face masks too? (Sorry. Couldn't resist.) |
Yeah...let's just say this transition back to Fed rules has not been enjoyable.
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I watched the Umpire and Referee signal and went off of them as I would have done in any HS game. And to add we did not have a single situation where we played with 10 at any point in the game. I have been the Referee on my high school crew and we maybe have only once had 10 on the in 3 games and that was on a scrimmage kick formation. Again this sounds like a solution looking for a problem. Everything done at the higher levels is not a good or great idea for that level. And football is one of those sports that really does not need a college rule to apply to the high school level. Other sports the game is not so different at its core. That is why again I said I see no point in changing the rule when this is almost an insignificant and almost never is an issue. If this happen every game I could see it, but offenses do not go out unknowingly playing with 10 players. When someone is missing a coach or player is calling a timeout. And we are worried about this rule of how many should be on the line or in the backfield? Really??? Peace |
We need a new signal for IF!
I would expect counting backs would be exactly the same between high school and college and that's exactly the point.
As I said before, I've see it happen enough that it's worth changing to get rid of a dumb foul. The only reason not to change is to be different from college and that's a pointless argument against. |
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Again, this is like arguing if you like a blonde over a brunette or a big butt over a small waist. At the end of the day I am going to be alright with what I like you will be fine with what you like. And if this is a hard adjustment, I feel there are bigger issues to worry about adjustment from the two codes. Oh well. Peace |
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