What would you do?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The only difference? Are you sure?

Intentional Personal: Only fouled player (unless injured, or otherwise not eligible to play) allowed to shoot the two free throws. Ball inbounded at spot closest to where foul occurred.

Technical: Any player, including a substitute coming off the bench, can shoot the two free throws, even two different players. Ball inbounded at division line, opposite table.

Billy,
I believe that he is referring to how the events unfolded in this specific case. For in this case the player who was fouled actually attempted the awarded technical foul FTs, therefore, the only difference was in fact where the ball was inbounded subsequently.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

... the player who was fouled actually attempted the awarded technical foul FTs, therefore, the only difference was in fact where the ball was inbounded subsequently.

If that's the case, I'm alright with that, but I'm still leaving my post up to remind rookie officials that there are subtle differences between penalties for intentional personal fouls, and technical fouls. Hopefully, OKREF won't mind.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

If that's the case, I'm alright with that, but I'm still leaving my post up to remind rookie officials that there are subtle differences between penalties for intentional personal fouls, and technical fouls. Hopefully, OKREF won't mind.

I don't. Obviously who shoots is the biggest difference. I was really just referring to this play. There was no doubt who was going to shoot the T. The team in white was the two time defending champion, and that kid was a three time state tourney MVP. They went on to win the next day, making it 3 in a row, going for 27 ppg in their 9 state tourney wins.

[Sharpshooternes]

How did you like the foul/blocked shot at 27:05?

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

How did you like the foul/blocked shot at 27:05?

I like the call. Looked like the kid nearly took the shooter's arm off at the elbow.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ODog

I like the call. Looked like the kid nearly took the shooter's arm off at the elbow.

He didn't come close to the elbow. He blocked the ball up top and the ball went directly OOB.

So you have not only an incorrect call, but an IC against the team that is losing by 16 points, and puts a 4th foul on their leading scorer. At the college level the official would be getting a phone call by the time he reached his driveway.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He didn't come close to the elbow. He blocked the ball up top and the ball went directly OOB.

So you have not only an incorrect call, but an IC against the team that is losing by 16 points, and puts a 4th foul on their leading scorer. At the college level the official would be getting a phone call by the time he reached his driveway.

+1. Didn't see the whole play. It was sort of like, "start, develop, fi...boop." Anticipated the call.

[APG]

Originally Posted by ODog

I like the call. Looked like the kid nearly took the shooter's arm off at the elbow.

This is a blocked shot IMO...look at the hand level of the defender to the ball...it's at the level of the ball....this is a big giveaway that the defender gets to the ball legally. If he gets the arm at the elbow like you're suggesting, his hand would be nowhere close to the ball.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He didn't come close to the elbow. He blocked the ball up top and the ball went directly OOB.

Originally Posted by APG

This is a blocked shot IMO...look at the hand level of the defender to the ball...it's at the level of the ball....this is a big giveaway that the defender gets to the ball legally. If he gets the arm at the elbow like you're suggesting, his hand would be nowhere close to the ball.

Actually, I don't think we can tell whether he got the elbow or not. I agree his hand didn't get the elbow but the rest of the defender's arm was right there where it could have hit. I just can't tell for sure from the angle in the video....and the L was in a great position.

I tend to go with a blocked shot, but I can't say that with 100% certainty.

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

How did you like the foul/blocked shot at 27:05?

Easy block. Ball first, rest is incidental. Consider which direction the ball went.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

How did you like the foul/blocked shot at 27:05?

I know why this was called a foul. Lets just leave it alone, please.