Wisconsin Changes

[bas2456]

Winter Sports Impacted by Board Actions > Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association

Curious to hear what those of us in Wisconsin think about the switch to two halves and a longer game (on the varsity level only)

[jTheUmp]

MN has been doing 18-minute halves since I started officiating basketball.

I personally like it; but if they wanted to go back to quarters I wouldn't really care.

I've heard objections basically raised on two fronts:
1) 4 extra minutes of game time with out a corresponding increase in officials pay. (meh, whatever). Easily solved by either raising officials pay (hahahaha) or going to 16-minute halves.
2) Coaches like having the "free" timeout between quarters. Could be remedied, if necessary, by either declaring an officials timeout following the first whistle after the halfway mark of the half, or by granting each team an extra timeout with the stipulation that at least one 'use it or lose it' timeout per team per half.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

MN has been doing 18-minute halves since I started officiating basketball.

I personally like it; but if they wanted to go back to quarters I wouldn't really care.

I've heard objections basically raised on two fronts:
1) 4 extra minutes of game time with out a corresponding increase in officials pay. (meh, whatever). Easily solved by either raising officials pay (hahahaha) or going to 16-minute halves.
2) Coaches like having the "free" timeout between quarters. Could be remedied, if necessary, by either declaring an officials timeout following the first whistle after the halfway mark of the half, or by granting each team an extra timeout with the stipulation that at least one 'use it or lose it' timeout per team per half.

Would you really want two extra time-outs per game and a game that's 4 minutes longer? Because you know every coach would make sure to use the "use it or lose it" TO, even if they're down 50.

[crosscountry55]

Yet another state that will do something their own way at the expense of giving up any potential seat on the NFHS rules committee. Small price to pay if you feel like what you're doing is right for your state.

The timing of this decision, however, is curious. Considering the NCAA women's rules committee just decided to revert to playing the game in quarters. It is interesting that there is nothing even close to consensus on this issue among the various levels of play.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Yet another state that will do something their own way at the expense of giving up any potential seat on the NFHS rules committee. Small price to pay if you feel like what you're doing is right for your state.

The timing of this decision, however, is curious. Considering the NCAA women's rules committee just decided to revert to playing the game in quarters. It is interesting that there is nothing even close to consensus on this issue among the various levels of play.

I thought the same thing about NCAA-W when I read this.

I've heard the explanation for why the women went to quarters, what is the driving motivation for Wisconsin to switch to halves? To me this just seems like change for the sake of change, with no real purpose.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

I thought the same thing about NCAA-W when I read this.

I've heard the explanation for why the women went to quarters, what is the driving motivation for Wisconsin to switch to halves? To me this just seems like change for the sake of change, with no real purpose.

Okay, scratch my question. The purpose was to increase the game time to 18 minute halves.

[Hugh Refner]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

2) Coaches like having the "free" timeout between quarters. Could be remedied, if necessary, by either declaring an officials timeout following the first whistle after the halfway mark of the half, or by granting each team an extra timeout with the stipulation that at least one 'use it or lose it' timeout per team per half.

Don't you have "TV timeouts"?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Okay, scratch my question. The purpose was to increase the game time to 18 minute halves.

Why is that even an issue?

Just permit 1-2 more games per season if they want more total playing time. That way, they don't have to muck with the game rules.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

To me this just seems like change for the sake of change, with no real purpose.

How about three fifteen-minute periods. To make extra money, the home team can sell advertising on the Zamboni.

[Rich]

Personally, I love it. Name one thing about this that is negative from an official's standpoint OTHER than playing 4 extra minutes per game.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why is that even an issue?

Just permit 1-2 more games per season if they want more total playing time. That way, they don't have to muck with the game rules.

Yeah, I don't disagree with you. As I said, it seems like a solution in search of a problem.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Rich

Personally, I love it. Name one thing about this that is negative from an official's standpoint OTHER than playing 4 extra minutes per game.

From an officiating perspective, I like it too. Mostly just because we essentially get rid of two timeouts. I just don't see any benefit to the game in general, and thus no reason for the state to make this change.

[Texas Aggie]

Playing quarters instead of halves in basketball at any level has never made sense. At least in the NBA, they have certain foul rules tied to the quarters. The presence of quarters means the game is harder to play and officiate. There are 4 potential last second shots to rule on, and 4 times to "play" for the last shot. The latter interrupts the normal flow of the game. Plus, in a game with either a good flow or a wide margin, there's likely no need for what would be the 3rd quarter TO.

I have had a game where we've had 3 buzzer beater shots. I think we got them all right, but at least 2 of them might have gone to replay if we were in a college game.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Okay, scratch my question. The purpose was to increase the game time to 18 minute halves.

And what would be wrong with 9 minute quarters? Are odd numbers just not cool?

However, I agree that from an officiating perspective, halves aren't too bad. But something tells me that WIAA didn't have officials in mind when making the change.

[Welpe]

Eliminating quarters gets rid of two last second shots and two AP throw ins (not a big deal granted).

I don't see a big deal in changing...well except NCAA women just went to quarters, so much for greater consistency.