Summer Leagues - HS

[Blindolbat]

Starting up summer leagues here and I've already given 3 T's in about 6 games. 2 coaches and 1 player. I don't know about everyone else but my tolerance for griping during summer league is much less. T's as far as I know aren't reported to anyone and no one is punished. Do you guys give more during summer league? We're already paid less and the gyms are hot. Why put up with stuff too?

[bballref3966]

Don't put up with much crap in any offseason leagues or scrimmages. Not paid enough to put up with it. If I take heat from an assigner/league director for not tolerating crap, I'll simply stop working those games.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Blindolbat

Do you guys give more during summer league?

Yep, more so to coaches since many of them aren't really coaches and don't tend to have sense.

[OrStBballRef]

I gave out only 2 Ts this year during 3 + months of HS ball. I'll only work about 3 weekends of summer ball, but on average give out 4-6 Ts for various reasons.

I just don't have much tolerance or desire to put up with any BS during a summer league game where all I'm getting paid is $25.

[#olderthanilook]

I gave one to a coach the other night. Summer is a really good time to practice such things. Nice and easy. No emotion. Stay professional and move on. The rest of the game was smoover n buttah.

[griblets]

I had 5 in the 2nd half of a game last weekend. That was more than I called the entire HS season.

[grunewar]

HS spring leagues are over and we've just started summer leagues. So far, thankfully, we've had no discipline problems.

[Freddy]

Question:
Does a summer league scrimmage or league help you or those doing them become better officials?
If not, boycott.
Seriously.
I'm doing that tomorrow and Sunday. And encouraging others as well.
Just got email from local prominent coach: "Need bodies for tomorrow...32 teams coming...blah, blah, blah...all games will be 2-person games only...try to take 8 games if possible..."blah, blah, blah..."
Note: "...bodies..." That's what he considers us.
It's time for dedicated officals to differentiate between "they need me" and "I need this opportunity to get better."
I'm sick of trying to break officials of habits during the school season of shortcut habits they pick up doing eight games a day every weekend during the summer season.
Stop it.
If you have to do things to "conserve energy" in order to make it through the day, you've prostituted yourself.
Seriously.
Stop it.
Really.
Don't do that.

Get it? Got it? Good.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by OrStBballRef

I gave out only 2 Ts this year during 3 + months of HS ball.

So, during those 3+ months, you only reffed one quarter?

[#olderthanilook]

I love this! Well said! Summer is definitely a great time to work on some things. It's also a great time to become a bit lazy and digress into bad habits. Not ever a good thing...especially the summer when one of the POEs is "Use NFHS mechanics".

Originally Posted by Freddy

Question:
Does a summer league scrimmage or league help you or those doing them become better officials?
If not, boycott.
Seriously.
I'm doing that tomorrow and Sunday. And encouraging others as well.
Just got email from local prominent coach: "Need bodies for tomorrow...32 teams coming...blah, blah, blah...all games will be 2-person games only...try to take 8 games if possible..."blah, blah, blah..."
Note: "...bodies..." That's what he considers us.
It's time for dedicated officals to differentiate between "they need me" and "I need this opportunity to get better."
I'm sick of trying to break officials of habits during the school season of shortcut habits they pick up doing eight games a day every weekend during the summer season.
Stop it.
If you have to do things to "conserve energy" in order to make it through the day, you've prostituted yourself.
Seriously.
Stop it.
Really.
Don't do that.

Get it? Got it? Good.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

I love this! Well said! Summer is definitely a great time to work on some things. It's also a great time to become a bit lazy and digress into bad habits. Not ever a good thing...especially the summer when one of the POEs is "Use NFHS mechanics".

I've said it before, but the only games I work during the summer are camp games or games assigned (and required to be worked) by an actual assignor of games in the regular season.

Since I moved, I don't have the latter, so I only work camp games. But I once worked for someone that assigned small college and required a certain number of summer youth games to be worked. I worked the minimum required. The basketball was bad, coaches were worse, and there was no benefit to me working them.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Question:
Does a summer league scrimmage or league help you or those doing them become better officials?
If not, boycott.
Seriously.
I'm doing that tomorrow and Sunday. And encouraging others as well.
Just got email from local prominent coach: "Need bodies for tomorrow...32 teams coming...blah, blah, blah...all games will be 2-person games only...try to take 8 games if possible..."blah, blah, blah..."
Note: "...bodies..." That's what he considers us.
It's time for dedicated officals to differentiate between "they need me" and "I need this opportunity to get better."
I'm sick of trying to break officials of habits during the school season of shortcut habits they pick up doing eight games a day every weekend during the summer season.
Stop it.
If you have to do things to "conserve energy" in order to make it through the day, you've prostituted yourself.
Seriously.
Stop it.
Really.
Don't do that.

Get it? Got it? Good.

Amen, Brother...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

I've said it before, but the only games I work during the summer are camp games or games assigned (and required to be worked) by an actual assignor of games in the regular season.

Since I moved, I don't have the latter, so I only work camp games. But I once worked for someone that assigned small college and required a certain number of summer youth games to be worked. I worked the minimum required. The basketball was bad, coaches were worse, and there was no benefit to me working them.

Where are you living now?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Question:
Does a summer league scrimmage or league help you or those doing them become better officials?
If not, boycott.
Seriously.
I'm doing that tomorrow and Sunday. And encouraging others as well.
Just got email from local prominent coach: "Need bodies for tomorrow...32 teams coming...blah, blah, blah...all games will be 2-person games only...try to take 8 games if possible..."blah, blah, blah..."
Note: "...bodies..." That's what he considers us.
It's time for dedicated officals to differentiate between "they need me" and "I need this opportunity to get better."
I'm sick of trying to break officials of habits during the school season of shortcut habits they pick up doing eight games a day every weekend during the summer season.
Stop it.
If you have to do things to "conserve energy" in order to make it through the day, you've prostituted yourself.
Seriously.
Stop it.
Really.
Don't do that.

Get it? Got it? Good.

You lost me here.

[Multiple Sports]

Freddy - GREAT POST !!!!

Unfortunately that is where our avocation has gone......people even on this site
will do 8 games a day on weekends and walk with $450 for a weekend. They aren't switching on fouls, walking up the court and not using proper mechanics....I watched a hs game this past year where two guys that are prostitutes on weekend did a hs game together. When the lead would call a foul, the trail would report the foul, this way they never switched...... these are the same guys that are complaining about everything in our meetings....I'm almost afraid to say that hs basketball is filled with "rec" referees !!!!