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BillyMac Wed May 20, 2015 05:26pm

Steady As She Goes ...
 
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 962698)
What about Byron collars? Are they coming back too?

Connecticut is often referred to as "The Land Of Steady Habits". There's got to be some underlying reason for this title.

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Camron Rust Wed May 20, 2015 06:40pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 962703)
Actually - here's the new ref jersey coming out this year. Cool.

http://i.imgur.com/nDM7XFw.jpg

That is only available in southern California.

SC Official Wed May 20, 2015 07:18pm

Oh thank goodness, for a second I was worried they weren't going to make editorial changes related to fashion police nonsense.

And yet the trainwreck that is Rule 9-9 still remains.

JetMetFan Thu May 21, 2015 05:18am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 962693)
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3-4-2c: By state association adoption one commemorative/memorial patch may be worn on the jersey. The patch shall not exceed 4 square inches, shall not be a number and must be located above the neckline or in the side insert.

3-5-3c: All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.

3-5-4a: Headbands and wristbands shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color for each item and all participants. They must be the same color as any sleeve/tights worn. See 3-6 for logo requirements.

Maybe it's just me but...aren't these rule changes as opposed to editorial changes? Editorial, to me, means the rule is rewritten to add some clarity or correct a typo from the previous rule book. What I'm seeing here is a change in the rules themselves.

Nevadaref Thu May 21, 2015 05:47am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 962715)
Maybe it's just me but...aren't these rule changes as opposed to editorial changes? Editorial, to me, means the rule is rewritten to add some clarity or correct a typo from the previous rule book. What I'm seeing here is a change in the rules themselves.

Yes, of course they are, but as has been pointed out on this forum many times, the NFHS doesn't operate in a competent or logical manner.

In fact, the labeling of the rules and editorial changes are actually reversed in the NFHS announcement this year. Imagine that!

ODog Thu May 21, 2015 06:29am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 962693)
3-5-3c: All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.

3-5-4a: Headbands and wristbands shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color for each item and all participants. They must be the same color as any sleeve/tights worn. See 3-6 for logo requirements.

Did they somehow make this WORSE? A reasonable team member/coach/parent could read this and conclude sleeves/tights no longer need to be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey UNLESS team members are wearing headbands/wristbands.

If you're not wearing bands (and I'd say most people don't), every color under the rainbow seems in play for sleeves/tights.

Am I missing something?

Altor Thu May 21, 2015 07:55am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 962715)
Maybe it's just me but...aren't these rule changes as opposed to editorial changes? Editorial, to me, means the rule is rewritten to add some clarity or correct a typo from the previous rule book. What I'm seeing here is a change in the rules themselves.

Usually it means:

"This is what we meant it to be last year when we changed it, but the person we assigned to write the new rule didn't understand that. So, now we're 'editting' it to make it what we really intended for it to be all along. (At least, that's what were telling you now because you don't know any better and we don't feel like admitting that we made a mistake in the first place.)"

Adam Thu May 21, 2015 09:48am

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 962707)
And yet the trainwreck that is Rule 9-9 still remains.

While train wreck occurs in 9-9, it's caused by the team control rule.

Rich Thu May 21, 2015 10:59am

I used to be bothered by poor writing, but at some point I just let it go. Doesn't change a thing about how I officiate a game.

ltllng Thu May 21, 2015 11:35am

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.


So which one is it, baseline or end line?

Absolutely amazing that know one actually cares to edit a paragraph and use the correct terms.

No wonder there are so many different interpretations of the rules!!!:mad:

Raymond Thu May 21, 2015 12:06pm

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Originally Posted by ltllng (Post 962735)
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So which one is it, baseline or end line?

Absolutely amazing that know one actually cares to edit a paragraph and use the correct terms.

No wonder there are so many different interpretations of the rules!!!:mad:

I know one who finds this post ironic. :cool:

OKREF Thu May 21, 2015 01:23pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 962738)
I know one who finds this post ironic. :cool:

I no. +1.

JetMetFan Thu May 21, 2015 03:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 962738)
I know one who finds this post ironic. :cool:

Me to :cool:

Multiple Sports Thu May 21, 2015 03:29pm

Dallas Shirley Says ........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ltllng (Post 962735)
Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.


So which one is it, baseline or end line?

Absolutely amazing that know one actually cares to edit a paragraph and use the correct terms.

No wonder there are so many different interpretations of the rules!!!:mad:

My 2nd camp ever ( 1989 ) I believe....Dallas Shirley jumped all over a bunch of us for using the term "baseline ".....from that point on I have always said end line... For you guys west of the Appalachian Mountains, there was no other like J. Dallas Shirley....considering he is in the HOF in Springfield it is END LINE. Case closed !!!!

BillyMac Thu May 21, 2015 03:31pm

Sleeves/Tights Color Choices ???
 
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Originally Posted by ODog (Post 962717)
If you're not wearing bands (and I'd say most people don't), every color under the rainbow seems in play for sleeves/tights. Am I missing something?

Maybe a casebook-like interpretation will make this clearer?


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