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Old Fri May 15, 2015, 09:52pm
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I like the idea of the 4 quarters, and removing some of the media timeouts. Not a huge fan of the "Advancing the ball" change. Not really sure why right now, just my initial gut reaction.
Since hey add a quarter break, which is really just a long(er) media timeout, it's not really much of a difference.
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Old Fri May 15, 2015, 10:08pm
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Since hey add a quarter break, which is really just a long(er) media timeout, it's not really much of a difference.
From what I was told at one of my camps the changes add up to a game that's 5-10 minutes shorter. The quarter break - in theory - would be the same as the media timeout break. That means one fewer media timeout in each half. Lopping off a timeout cuts down time as well.

The idea is to make the games fit into a two-hour window, which is what the networks want.
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Old Sun May 17, 2015, 12:23am
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From what I was told at one of my camps the changes add up to a game that's 5-10 minutes shorter. The quarter break - in theory - would be the same as the media timeout break. That means one fewer media timeout in each half. Lopping off a timeout cuts down time as well.

The idea is to make the games fit into a two-hour window, which is what the networks want.
Why a quarter break, though? Just have a media TO at the first stoppage under 10.

Having 2 extra last second shots doesn't help the game.

I've been advocating going to halves in the HS game for years, and now NCAAW is going to go away from them.
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Old Sun May 17, 2015, 11:39am
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Why a quarter break, though? Just have a media TO at the first stoppage under 10.

Having 2 extra last second shots doesn't help the game.

I've been advocating going to halves in the HS game for years, and now NCAAW is going to go away from them.
First stoppage under 10:00 is fine but...that first stoppage might not come until 9:00. Or 8:00. Or 7:00. I'm speculating here but this way guarantees the coaches and the networks know when it's coming.
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Old Sun May 17, 2015, 03:51pm
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Why a quarter break, though? Just have a media TO at the first stoppage under 10.

Having 2 extra last second shots doesn't help the game.

I've been advocating going to halves in the HS game for years, and now NCAAW is going to go away from them.
This has been mentioned before, but it bears repeating. The NCAAW changes seem to have as much to do with aligning the rules with FIBA as they do with speeding up the game. There seems to be a feeling that the women's game is generally a good product right now, and so they can afford to make some more finesse adjustments in their effort to make the game more internationally appealing. Although when they widen the lane, then I'll really be impressed.

The men's game obviously has more pressing issues right now, and besides, I don't think there's any inclination to make men's game more international. If anything, they'd like to make it more NBAish.
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Old Tue May 19, 2015, 06:36am
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Although when they widen the lane, then I'll really be impressed.
From what I understand coaches weren't thrilled with this idea, though it was proposed. Regardless, it might have been tough to implement. Schools would have complained about re-doing their floors since many of them resurface their courts before PROP approves rule changes. That's what held up the RA.
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I'm not thrilled with the idea of advancing the ball.I like the idea of going to quarters.
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Old Tue May 19, 2015, 12:48pm
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I'm not thrilled with the idea of advancing the ball.I like the idea of going to quarters.
Quarters (Even 10 minutes quarters) speed the game up. Teams don't get in bonus for so long or so often. Coaches don't use timeouts to rest players or break momentum as often. The quarter break takes care of some of that.
In terms of acutal breaks between changes to media timeouts and quarter breaks you are saving a few minutes a game even if everyone uses all their timeouts.

Obviously the move it to match up with the international game, which actually makes most of its rule changes to match up better with NBA or pro style game. Just another move towards univeral rule set for basketball.

The advancing the ball does seem a little random, though we've been doing it in our FIBA games for years now and it just becomes part of what you do. Does it eliminate full court plays (for the most part) but it also creates more opportunities 5 on 5 and eliminates coaches/players bumpign clutching on full corut inbounds or late clock plays where everyone wants a foul called. You eliminate the mess in the middle of the floor and put players in a position where they are guarding a clear basketball play and a realistic shooter.
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