Where do they come uo with these...

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

C: He's going over the back thats a foul.
O: Over the back is not a call. Its only a foul if he's pushing.
C: But he's got him boxed out. He can't reach over him.
O: He can if there is no contact.
O: So whats the point in my kid boxing out.

I've come to love it when you whistle a foul, and it's on the other team than most in the building are expecting. The preceding quote illustrates a perfect example.

During a rebound, A-1 displaces B-2, while B-2 reaches over A-1's back. Wait for it, ball goes to Team A, tweet. Bench A explodes happily, expecting the "over the back" call on B-2, only to be horribly confused when I report A-1's number.

A veteran official I respect highly uses this line: "Boxing out is screening, not displacing." Beautifully succinct.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I've come to love it when you whistle a foul, and it's on the other team than most in the building are expecting. The preceding quote illustrates a perfect example.

During a rebound, A-1 displaces B-2, while B-2 reaches over A-1's back. Wait for it, ball goes to Team A, tweet. Bench A explodes happily, expecting the "over the back" call on B-2, only to be horribly confused when I report A-1's number.

A veteran official I respect highly uses this line: "Boxing out is screening, not displacing." Beautifully succinct.

A varsity coach (losing team) came completely unglued on a 3rd qtr play in which his player, B1, waited for the shooter to return to the floor after A1's 3FGA from the corner. B1 shoved his rear end into A1, displacing/pushing him into A1's bench and onto the lap of a teammate. I am the T...watch my shooter up and down...immediately see the contact so I stay with it. And, I blow.

Coach is beside himself, saying his player was boxing out. I calmly explained that boxing out is not displacing an opponent. He looked at me incredulously. I told him we were moving on, and continued officiating the game.

Video clearly showed illegal contact of the displacement variety.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Video clearly showed illegal contact of the displacement variety.

As long as you called it a non-shooting foul, I love it.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

As long as you called it a non-shooting foul, I love it.

Indeed!

I don't remember if the try was successful or not (would have to go back to the video), however, I know I had a non-shooting foul.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

A varsity coach (losing team) came completely unglued on a 3rd qtr play in which his player, B1, waited for the shooter to return to the floor after A1's 3FGA from the corner. B1 shoved his rear end into A1, displacing/pushing him into A1's bench and onto the lap of a teammate. I am the T...watch my shooter up and down...immediately see the contact so I stay with it. And, I blow.

Coach is beside himself, saying his player was boxing out. I calmly explained that boxing out is not displacing an opponent. He looked at me incredulously. I told him we were moving on, and continued officiating the game.

Video clearly showed illegal contact of the displacement variety.

I find "boxing out" is something that can quickly get out of hand and lead to rough play but a lot of officials don't want to call tightly. I'm not sure if they feel like its ticky tack/game interruption or that the box outs are not impacting the play enough or maybe their standard for rough isn't the same. In any event this is definitely one of those areas of the game where if you get it early or when it happens the first time it just stops.