Where do they come uo with these...

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

*Grrrrr!! hate it when my partner 'cow tows' to these type of calls. It makes me look like I'm too lenient when I do not make such calls (no effect on RSBQ, just defender with quick hands righ?) and it makes the coaches and participants hold the opinion that we are not "calling it on both ends" which is their predicatable lament. Whenever my partner ref(s) do it, I pull them aside (during time out or half break or post game) and tell them that it is not a foul; explaining to them that if you're calling "reaching in" when the the action does not affect RSBQ then you have "nothing" and furthermore, we are not calling the game in a consistent manner.

I dunno man, yesterday I had a shitty girls game which developed into a string of held balls and elbows trying to clear space after rebounds. The next game my partner and I talked -- and we called a foul EVERY time the girls reached in, whether they got the ball or not. It took a few minutes but their coaches got the idea and they stopped reaching. I'm not saying reaching is a foul, but in an unskilled girls game like that it might as well be.