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griblets Wed Apr 22, 2015 02:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 961137)
I see no LGP here ever.

At 0:16 into the video, LGP is established:

1) both feet touching the playing court

2) front of torso facing the opponent


I don't think it's "definitely a block" as some have said. In the moment, and my first instinct, I almost certainly would have called a block based on the overhead view, but I'm not sure that would be right. I think there is room for healthy debate here.

At 0:17, W5's left foot had beaten B23 to the spot. W5's left leg was within the width of his torso (are we initially being fooled by his right foot being left outside his shoulder width to the right?). B23 never gets his head and shoulders around W5's torso when contact occurs. I may have talked myself into PC.

Anybody else think this may be PC, and why?

Raymond Wed Apr 22, 2015 03:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by griblets (Post 961165)
At 0:16 into the video, LGP is established:

1) both feet touching the playing court

2) front of torso facing the opponent


I don't think it's "definitely a block" as some have said. In the moment, and my first instinct, I almost certainly would have called a block based on the overhead view, but I'm not sure that would be right. I think there is room for healthy debate here.

At 0:17, W5's left foot had beaten B23 to the spot. W5's left leg was within the width of his torso (are we initially being fooled by his right foot being left outside his shoulder width to the right?). B23 never gets his head and shoulders around W5's torso when contact occurs. I may have talked myself into PC.

Anybody else think this may be PC, and why?

I agree with you that is not a cut-n-dry block. I do not see the defender moving into A1, I see lateral movement by the defender. Who got to the spot first, and was LGP ever established?

AremRed Wed Apr 22, 2015 03:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 961164)
DeRosa does go up with a fist...you then can see the slot official looking at DeRosa...hence the hesitation.

Yeah but he doesn't hold it and doesn't do anything to sell that he had the first foul.

Adam Wed Apr 22, 2015 04:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 961167)
I agree with you that is not a cut-n-dry block. I do not see the defender moving into A1, I see lateral movement by the defender. Who got to the spot first, and was LGP ever established?

I see it the way you do, but I don't think he established LGP because he wasn't in the path of the dribbler.

mutantducky Thu Apr 23, 2015 03:50pm

Warriors fan...and watching the warriors broadcast. Along with the local announcers I thought that it probably should have been a block call. It was close but if you start calling charges on those you are going to get way too many players jumping in the paths of the offensive players.

just another ref Thu Apr 23, 2015 04:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 961217)
It was close but if you start calling charges on those you are going to get way too many players jumping in the paths of the offensive players.



He's putting us on, right.


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