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Old Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:26pm
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New Orleans Pelicans vs GSW Game 2 Block/Charge (Video)

Approx 3:10 remaining in the 3rd.

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Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:56am
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Looked like a good call to me. Defender was there. The announcer's comment was that the defender was still moving. Since Davis wasn't airborne, he can be moving as long as he gets to the spot first.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 01:59pm
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:17pm
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Block...never got into the path and was moving towards the opponent at the time of contact.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:38pm
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I have a block too - he never stops moving left and into the dribbler. I see no LGP here ever.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 03:58pm
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Throw in another vote for "block"
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H&R couldn't be a move obvious block.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:51pm
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Get the first foul

I know its the NBA so this logic probably doesn't apply but if the ref had called the foul by Wht 9 as Blk 1 was dribbling into the lane then the block/charge debate would be nonexistant. Call it a hand check or a hold but the contact by #9 causes the loose ball that put the offensive team at a disadvantage by limiting the dribblers movements, preventing him from taking his path to the goal, and almost resulted in a turn over.

This is why we should always get the first foul. It will not only help control the game but in many cases, just like this one, the offense is unfairly punished when they get called for the foul that follows.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:57pm
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I know its the NBA so this logic probably doesn't apply but if the ref had called the foul by Wht 9 as Blk 1 was dribbling into the lane then the block/charge debate would be nonexistant. Call it a hand check or a hold but the contact by #9 causes the loose ball that put the offensive team at a disadvantage by limiting the dribblers movements, preventing him from taking his path to the goal, and almost resulted in a turn over.

This is why we should always get the first foul. It will not only help control the game but in many cases, just like this one, the offense is unfairly punished when they get called for the foul that follows.
Yes, I think a late whistle once he lost the ball wouldn't have been a bad call.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 12:18am
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Charge from the slot's angle, block from the overhead view. Just goes to show you how poor of a view C/slot has of block/charge plays like this.

Like this play for example. Pretty clear block shown on the video screen but Breeding couldn't see the lateral movement from C. Now whether DeRosa actually had a whistle initially or made something up is another story...
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Charge from the slot's angle, block from the overhead view. Just goes to show you how poor of a view C/slot has of block/charge plays like this.

Like this play for example. Pretty clear block shown on the video screen but Breeding couldn't see the lateral movement from C. Now whether DeRosa actually had a whistle initially or made something up is another story...
There's a lot weird going on on that play. Breeding has no fist in the air and seemed really hesitant to make any call.
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There's a lot weird going on on that play. Breeding has no fist in the air and seemed really hesitant to make any call.
He was hesistant cause he heard DeRosa's (trail) whistle...and wanted to avoid a blarge....but DeRosa had a hit by the backside defender before his "charge"...which is fortunate. The play was absolutely a block.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:15am
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Charge from the slot's angle, block from the overhead view. Just goes to show you how poor of a view C/slot has of block/charge plays like this.

Like this play for example. Pretty clear block shown on the video screen but Breeding couldn't see the lateral movement from C. Now whether DeRosa actually had a whistle initially or made something up is another story...

This is why I thought it was interesting. Watching it live I didn't think much about it but when shown from the overhead the view was much different.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:33pm
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He was hesistant cause he heard DeRosa's (trail) whistle...and wanted to avoid a blarge....but DeRosa had a hit by the backside defender before his "charge"...which is fortunate. The play was absolutely a block.
If you watch the video Breeding says he did not hear DeRosa's whistle. And DeRosa didn't have a fist or any body language signaling he had a foul.
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Old Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:46pm
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If you watch the video Breeding says he did not hear DeRosa's whistle. And DeRosa didn't have a fist or any body language signaling he had a foul.
DeRosa does go up with a fist...you then can see the slot official looking at DeRosa...hence the hesitation.
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