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Adam Thu Apr 16, 2015 09:59am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 961010)
The following play ruling is very clear and the one that I posted above is the only specific exception of which I am aware.

6.7 SITUATION C: Under what circumstances does the ball remain live when a foul occurs just prior to the ball being in flight during a try or tap? RULING: The ball would ordinarily become dead at once, but it remains live if the foul is by the defense, and this foul occurs after A1 has started the try or tap for goal and time does not expire before the ball is in flight. The foul by the defense may be either personal or technical and the exception to the rule applies to field goal tries and taps and free-throw tries. (4-11; 4-41-1)
Nowhere does this specify a player: the fact that it just says "defense" implies, to many of us, that it would apply to a coach from the defensive team as well.

It's certainly arguable, but it's far from "clear."

AremRed Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:18am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 961008)
You unfairly excessively punished this act.
I know, that's why I did it. :cool:

jeremy341a Thu Apr 16, 2015 02:52pm
If he called it earlier would he have been providing the defense with an advantage not intended by rule?

Rich1 Thu Apr 16, 2015 05:59pm
I agree with Nevada on this one. If A1 is dribbling down the court then I blow the whistle when it happens. If A1 is very close to beginning a shooting motion I would delay. This applies to on court players only. I will always delay and see the play through if its from the bench.

And I don't agrse that you are giving the defense an advantage not intended by rule because they get two shots and the ball to make up for it. Advantage offense.

Nevadaref Thu Apr 16, 2015 08:08pm
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 961017)
Nowhere does this specify a player: the fact that it just says "defense" implies, to many of us, that it would apply to a coach from the defensive team as well.

It's certainly arguable, but it's far from "clear."
Uh, that was my point. You have quoted the wrong case play. The continuous motion rule applies to all defensive fouls whether personal or technical. That ruling clearly states that the ball becomes dead unless the act of shooting has already begun.

Camron Rust Fri Apr 17, 2015 02:55am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 961034)
Uh, that was my point. You have quoted the wrong case play. The continuous motion rule applies to all defensive fouls whether personal or technical. That ruling clear states that the ball becomes dead unless the act of shooting has already begun.
Yet, why would there be a case that applies to anyone which says to wait until after the shot when there is an obvious scoring opportunity for the other team? Why do we penalize a team more harshly for an infraction by bench personnel than a player who commits the same infraction?

Adam Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:30am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 961034)
Uh, that was my point. You have quoted the wrong case play. The continuous motion rule applies to all defensive fouls whether personal or technical. That ruling clearly states that the ball becomes dead unless the act of shooting has already begun.
Yeah, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying the continuous motion exception only applied on a foul committed by a player, and not a technical committed by someone on the bench.

Nevadaref Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:54am
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 961044)
Yeah, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying the continuous motion exception only applied on a foul committed by a player, and not a technical committed by someone on the bench.
Actually, that is true too.


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