Mark Cuban Blasts NCAA Basketball

[grunewar]

Rules, Refs, the Game.....it's all here.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...160308391.html

Shit rolls downhill. Cuban blasts the NCAA for not preparing athletes for the NBA, Geno blames HS for not preparing athletes for college, despite that fact that the vast majority of HS and NCAA players will not play at the next level.

[JRutledge]

It is the NBA's job to worry about their game. They are the ones with the one and done rule. They are the ones that control their rules and their staffs. Unless the NBA wants to take on some financial obligations that we are unaware of, then it is your problem to identify players and then coach them and develop them. And things like a shot clock are not going to change that fact. If a player cannot shoot a mid range jumper, do not blame officials for that fact. If they cannot defend, do not blame officials for that fact. And most of all the coaches who make the rules do not care what the NBA is going to do when most of their players will never be drafted or make a NBA roster. You could not do anything with Darko Miličić and it is the NCAA's fault he cannot play? Sorry Mark, but you have lost your mind like every other time.

Peace

Oh and this paragraph is totally wrong: "If they want to keep kids in school and keep them from being pro players, they're doing it the exact right way by having the 35-second shot clock and having the game look and officiated the way it is," Cuban said Wednesday night.

Lack of NBA-style basketball isn't keeping NBA-caliber players from jumping ship to the NBA as soon as their one year is up -- money is.

[johnnyg08]

Coming from Cuban who doesn't have an athletic bone in his body.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Shit rolls downhill. Cuban blasts the NCAA for not preparing athletes for the NBA, Geno blames HS for not preparing athletes for college, despite that fact that the vast majority of HS and NCAA players will not play at the next level.

I wonder how much here with these and other critics is the internationalization of the game. Geno does USA basketball, Cubans experience have multiple players on National teams etc. . .

North America is basically the only model where basketball (and other sports) are connected and run by educational institutes. Almost everyhere else they run club systems where the only purpose of the club is to groom youth players into adult players that will play in rec, semi pro or professional ranks.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

I wonder how much here with these and other critics is the internationalization of the game. Geno does USA basketball, Cubans experience have multiple players on National teams etc. . .

North America is basically the only model where basketball (and other sports) are connected and run by educational institutes. Almost everyhere else they run club systems where the only purpose of the club is to groom youth players into adult players that will play in rec, semi pro or professional ranks.

And not sure how any of the players are hurting from what the United States does. Not only do the players in this country dominate world competition, by far most of the best players come from the United States. LeBron James is the best player in the world and he did not go to high school with a shot clock. This tells me that the NBA does not know how to develop players properly and think a shot clock is going to help a player shoot or dribble better.

Peace

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And not sure how any of the players are hurting from what the United States does. Not only do the players in this country dominate world competition, by far most of the best players come from the United States. LeBron James is the best player in the world and he did not go to high school with a shot clock. This tells me that the NBA does not know how to develop players properly and think a shot clock is going to help a player shoot or dribble better.

Peace

I agree that the best players in the world come from the US. THe method for creating them though is to create a massive base of players from a massive population base, then put them in competitive situations and the ones with the best combination of genetic advantages, socials advantages, opportunities, coaching etc end up as your elite. Very best in the world are created through a pyramid of competion that just filters off massive numbers of athletes along the way until you get to the top. The USA has a huge system, huge dollars and a massive population so this works.

If you look at the next three best countires in the world of basketball (Spain, Argentina, LIthuania) Spain and Argentina have slightly more people then California and Lituania has a smaller population then Conneticut. These countires clearly do not have the resources (genetically or population density wise) to get to this point following that model. So they've got different rule sets, different clubs etc. That have created a high level of basketball plaeyr skill wise but clearly without the athletic advantages of the USA so they can compete but often not get over the top.

I can't speak for Geno or Cuban or any of the the people who want to make changes to the basic basketball landscape or culture. Though the premise seems to be if you've got a model (rules set, developing athletes, coaching) etc that is creating athletes skilled enough to compete with the USA. That if the USA took its advantages and adopted some of those models or aspects you would end up with an even better result.

I don't think that Geno or Cuban is saying that USA isn't making the worlds best players, IMO they have a unique perspective to look out and over the entire system and see areas where you could be making more better players.

We all agree that is not the sole purpose of high school sport or college sport but just looking at developing basketball players they see various models and rule sets and probably like what they see so would see it as an improvement to the game. We as officials routinely comment on this board about rules and rule changes that we feel would make improvements and our perspective is often from that of officials or game management, not so often as stakeholders in improving the game as a whole.

[JRutledge]

How many players from Spain, Lithuania and Argentina are All-Stars in the NBA?

And the US has both a high school system and a club system that helps identify players from all over pro leagues to show who can play. But I would bet that those countries have much better soccer players that are world wide stars than basketball.

The game of basketball is dribbling, passing, shooting and defense. None of those things have anything to do with 5 second different on a shot clock. I do not think LeBron James or Kobe Bryant were hurt dramatically because they did not have a shot clock in high school. And even Kobe had to develop for his first several years in the NBA.

Peace

[Raymond]

I saw the article earlier today. I left a message on his FB page about his ignorant ass statement about managing a White Castle. Frickin billionaire clown. BTW, that was him posting here in forum a few years ago.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

BTW, that was him posting here in forum a few years ago.

Really???!!! Interesting.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Really???!!! Interesting.

Peace

I forget how, but I communicated with him and I was convinced it was actually him.

https://forum.officiating.com/search...earchid=596841

[BktBallRef]

Oh yeah, he was here.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I saw the article earlier today. I left a message on his FB page about his ignorant ass statement about managing a White Castle. Frickin billionaire clown. BTW, that was him posting here in forum a few years ago.

Under what name?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Under what name?

as "mcuban". See his posts below:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I forget how, but I communicated with him and I was convinced it was actually him.

https://forum.officiating.com/search...earchid=596841