Wisconsin vs. Duke - National Championship - Master Thread

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by Adam

Worst excuse ever for poor behavior.

Well, not a good excuse, but WORSE? EVER? I'll bet some would have a good time with that one

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Well, not a good excuse, but WORSE? EVER? I'll bet some would have a good time with that one

I'll clarify. Worst excuse that people try to actually use on a regular basis.

[letemplay]

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

I think that is rather unlikely in a replay situation.

I just think it is very possible they did not see the view that was the most definitive and not all the angles were definitive.

Peace

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

Pass on a foul?? No.

That's old school thinking and is no longer an option at this level.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Pass on a foul?? No.

That's old school thinking and is no longer an option at this level.

Old School? well, they passed on a "force out" moments before on Winslow stepping on baseline

[deecee]

IMO I've seen NBA games better officiated. It just seemed to me that at times the officials were reluctant to call fouls in key moments, and on players on both sides. I doubt it was intentional as it's a pretty stressful position they were in, but their threshold for call/no-calls was confusing at best. Why even have a PC foul in the rule book if it's enforced so inconsistently and piss poorly, and most importantly to me is how does the lead miss an OOB call. On baseline drives in 3 person that's like priority #1.

Either way the officiating didn't effect the outcome. Duke made adjustments and Wisconsin didn't.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by deecee

IMO I've seen NBA games better officiated....

I would hope so.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by deecee

IMO I've seen NBA games better officiated.

Of course NBA games are better officiated. Those are professional games with staff referees that have enhanced training, evaluation, and consistent points of emphasis from the league.

As far as the out of bounds play, there was a lot of contact high, so I can see how the foot being out of bounds was missed.

These referees - even those in the NBA - are human. You do realize that, yes?

[ODog]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Old School? well, they passed on a "force out" moments before on Winslow stepping on baseline

That was my take on the play as well.

As it happened live, I thought a.) "Where the hell is Winslow going?" (a constant thought), then b.) "It sure looks like Hayes is pushing him pretty consistently with an arm bar."

So when the replay arrived showing him stepping on the end line, I thought, "It's a wash." Non-factor.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Another take on the not to overturn after review play: Is there a chance the calling official passed on a foul on the Wisconsin player (for contact on Winslow after he had his hands on rebound), awarded the ball to Duke, and then discussed it with his partners while they were in review? What do you do in that case anyway? I'm guessing some of you will say "Don't pass on the foul in that sitch", but given the chance, wouldn't most?

I highly, highly doubt that justification works when your game is on national TV.

Best bet, they didn't get a definitive view when they went to the monitor.