Wisconsin vs. Duke - National Championship - Master Thread

[tmagan]

I'm trying to remember the last Final Four game decided on a game ending buzzer beater. Nantz has done 75 Final Four games and I do not think he has ever had one of those.

[Nevadaref]

Three officiating decisions stood out to me. There were others which can be debated, but overall the crew did a good job.
The three plays to me which are difficult to comprehend that FF officials missed were the blocking foul called on Wisconsin by Derosa with about 9 minutes left. (Video of this has already been posted above in this thread.) I have a clear chargin foul on Duke's Winslow.
The play with around 4:15 left in which the Duke player steps on the endline, then passes to Okafor who is fouled by Kaminsky and scores.
The OOB call reviewed at 1:51. (Already discussed at length above.). Hard in real time or with an unclear video monitor, but if the NCAA is going to have video review for OOB calls under two minutes, then the system needs to be improved so that these calls are correct. Unfortunately, this one was not.

That block call is the same call DeRosa made at the end of the UK-ND game.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

That block call is the same call DeRosa made at the end of the UK-ND game.

That's coach-talk.

Not even close to the same. Pull up both videos side-by-side and you will see that.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by badnewsref

not even close to the same. Pull up both videos side-by-side and you will see that.

+1

[letemplay]

I don't get the overall official bashing this morning from Bo Ryan to 'Mike n Mike' I thought, as in most cases, things went a little both ways and had a way of evening out. Ryan's a bit overboard in some of his comments, but I'll give him the "heat of the moment" and that he's standing up for his players, but if not for a missed shot clock violation Saturday, Wisc MAY not of even been playing last night.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by letemplay

I don't get the overall official bashing this morning from Bo Ryan to 'Mike n Mike' I thought, as in most cases, things went a little both ways and had a way of evening out. Ryan's a bit overboard in some of his comments, but I'll give him the "heat of the moment" and that he's standing up for his players, but if not for a missed shot clock violation Saturday, Wisc MAY not of even been playing last night.

Worst excuse ever for poor behavior.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That's coach-talk.

Not even close to the same. Pull up both videos side-by-side and you will see that.

Same in that both plays were late in close games and incorrectly called blocks. Given John Adams apparent love for blocking fouls to encourage scoring and driving into the lane, and the limited knowledge the general public has in regards to LGP I think DeRosa correctly figured in both cases that calling a block would be more palatable.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Same in that both plays were late in close games and incorrectly called blocks. ....

Where did you come up with notion that the UK/ND call was incorrect? You took a poll of conference supervisors, or just Indiana residents?

That's was the easiest block of any of the plays I've seen discussed in the forum this season.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Same in that both plays were late in close games and incorrectly called blocks. Given John Adams apparent love for blocking fouls to encourage scoring and driving into the lane, and the limited knowledge the general public has in regards to LGP I think DeRosa correctly figured in both cases that calling a block would be more palatable.

Actually I think the fact that this play got called a block just further reinforces the lack of knowledge the public has of LGP and what is a block and what is not. If that is called a charge I don't think anyone outside of Durham NC would have a problem with it.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

That block call is the same call DeRosa made at the end of the UK-ND game.

At least I'm consistent. I wrote that Derosa wrongly called a block on that ND defender in our thread on that game. What saved him in the uneducated public eye is that there was significant left to right movement by the ND defender, which would have actually made this a blocking foul had the offensive player gone airborne prior to the contact. That was not the case for the Wisconsin defender. He simply got knocked straight backward.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Hard in real time or with an unclear video monitor, but if the NCAA is going to have video review for OOB calls under two minutes, then the system needs to be improved so that these calls are correct. Unfortunately, this one was not.

I've never understood why basketball tries to do a replay review courtside on monitors smaller than my laptop screen. If we aren't going to have a replay official, can we at least have a big screen HD monitor just off the court for them to use?

It's simply unacceptable to go to review and get it wrong, but I don't know how they could have gotten it right with the monitor they had to use.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

I've never understood why basketball tries to do a replay review courtside on monitors smaller than my laptop screen. If we aren't going to have a replay official, can we at least have a big screen HD monitor just off the court for them to use?

It's simply unacceptable to go to review and get it wrong, but I don't know how they could have gotten it right with the monitor they had to use.

I thought they were supposed to be going to an HD replay system for the final four. Anyways, the only definitive replay video shown on TV, they had to zoom in on it to see it.