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bballref3966 Sat Apr 04, 2015 06:48pm

Michigan State vs. Duke
 
Would like to get another look at the Dawson tripping foul at 11:26 if possible. TV crew called this foul and the one 20 seconds later "questionable."

InsideTheStripe Sat Apr 04, 2015 07:02pm

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InsideTheStripe Sat Apr 04, 2015 07:10pm

The second one:

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JRutledge Sat Apr 04, 2015 07:51pm

I did not like either call. And the second one was worse as he reached to get that one. That is a call that was not an elephant.

Peace

AremRed Sat Apr 04, 2015 08:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 960126)
I did not like either call. And the second one was worse as he reached to get that one. That is a call that was not an elephant.

I don't think it was that much of a reach. C is responsible for the curl play.

Texref Sat Apr 04, 2015 08:15pm

Didn't see anything on trip other than Duke player tripping on his own. Second play was a foul as he ripped his arm off the ball. Although with how the game was generally officiated, I don't think the second foul fit the game.

Multiple Sports Sat Apr 04, 2015 08:26pm

Can anyone post the first whistle in the 2nd half, I believe it
was around the 18:30 mark. Adams came from lead to call a foul on a long rebound above the 3pt. arc. Another ant ( IMO ).

I thought he was about to take the game over....

JRutledge Sat Apr 04, 2015 08:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 960128)
I don't think it was that much of a reach. C is responsible for the curl play.

That is really not a curl play. That is more of a drive to the lane with two officials watching that play potentially. And the play not really starting near the lane. Not sure why he was watching there. The play happen outside of the lane on the other side of the lane. He reached to get it and it was not IMO obvious. If it was obvious I might agree with the call, but it was very close and I think on some level wrong (but that is up for debate). That was not a game saver or a call that everyone would say, "Absolutely that is a foul."

Peace

blindzebra Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:33am

They missed both. First was not a trip and second was all ball. Basic physics an arm swinging down on the ball that hits the ball causes ball to go down. Arm swinging down that hits the arm causes ball to go up.

constable Sun Apr 05, 2015 02:22am

no call on the trip. I like the 2nd call.

abcdefg Sun Apr 05, 2015 04:56am

Both fouls went against the same player upping him to four in the game. Unfortunate.

APG Sun Apr 05, 2015 05:03am

I do think the defender trips the offensive player in the first clip...I would expect that to be called 9/10 times.

Second play...appears to be a clean strip. I have no problem with the slot making the call...he has the open look at the play. I wouldn't consider this a reach for him to call.

abcdefg Sun Apr 05, 2015 05:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 960187)
I do think the defender trips the offensive player in the first clip...I would expect that to be called 9/10 times.

Second play...appears to be a clean strip. I have no problem with the slot making the call...he has the open look at the play. I wouldn't consider this a reach for him to call.

I think it's hard to say he tripped him when the offensive player stepped on his foot which was on the ground.

MechanicGuy Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindzebra (Post 960176)
They missed both. First was not a trip and second was all ball. Basic physics an arm swinging down on the ball that hits the ball causes ball to go down. Arm swinging down that hits the arm causes ball to go up.

That is a highly questionable use of physics. A player can EASILY be fouled, and the ball go down.

MechanicGuy Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:35am

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Originally Posted by abcdefg (Post 960186)
Both fouls went against the same player upping him to four in the game. Unfortunate.

Sure, but he either shouldn't have been in the game...or more aptly, shouldn't have taken a swipe from the side of a driving player.


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