Ohio team loses H.S. state title after late hanging-on-the-rim technical foul

[JugglingReferee]

Original ESPN article: Ohio team loses H.S. state title after late hanging-on-the-rim technical foul - SportsNation - ESPN

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[hbk314]

I don't see anything there that would justify a technical for me as a non-official. He may have pulled down on the rim a little after the ball went through, but other than that there's nothing here. I feel like his actions after he hit the ground had to have played into the T.

[bballref3966]

Absolutely a T. Good for the official and good for the director backing him up.

Fan comments are comical.

[mutantducky]

correct call...I can see why the fans are upset because no one is used to that call, but I think it's clear he added a bit after the dunk and the T could have been called. Sure some refs would have passed on it but I don't fault the ref here at all.

btw, speaking of a pass. In the Open Championship for California, at the end of regulation one team got the rebound with the game tied with about two seconds to go. A player was calling a TO but his team didn't have any. The refs let it go and the game went into OT. That was a great move by the refs(assuming they did it on purpose because it was fairly quick). It would have been a horrible way to end the game so pass on that T if the situation calls for it.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

correct call...I can see why the fans are upset because no one is used to that call, but I think it's clear he added a bit after the dunk and the T could have been called. Sure some refs would have passed on it but I don't fault the ref here at all.

btw, speaking of a pass. In the Open Championship for California, at the end of regulation one team got the rebound with the game tied with about two seconds to go. A player was calling a TO but his team didn't have any. The refs let it go and the game went into OT. That was a great move by the refs(assuming they did it on purpose because it was fairly quick). It would have been a horrible way to end the game so pass on that T if the situation calls for it.

Just so I'm clear, what part of it is the part where he "added a bit after"?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by hbk314

Just so I'm clear, what part of it is the part where he "added a bit after"?

Players may hang on to the rim when there is a possibility of it being a safety issue...but they only get to hang on, not put on a show. Pulling his legs to a point nearly at the level of the rim is not just hanging on the rim for safety. It is way beyond that.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

A player was calling a TO but his team didn't have any. The refs let it go and the game went into OT. That was a great move by the refs(assuming they did it on purpose because it was fairly quick). It would have been a horrible way to end the game so pass on that T if the situation calls for it.

Totally disagree.

It's the officials' responsibility (NFHS) to tell a head coach that he has no timeouts left. It's the coach's responsibility to inform his players of such. It's the players' responsibility to listen to the coach's instructions.

It is not an official's responsibility to "let it go" to help either team.

Fire up the flux capacitor to go back to 1993. Every official, coach, and player, should watch, and learn from, this video The player, and/or, the coach, were wrong. But the official was 100% correct:

[APG]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

btw, speaking of a pass. In the Open Championship for California, at the end of regulation one team got the rebound with the game tied with about two seconds to go. A player was calling a TO but his team didn't have any. The refs let it go and the game went into OT. That was a great move by the refs(assuming they did it on purpose because it was fairly quick). It would have been a horrible way to end the game so pass on that T if the situation calls for it.

Jesus Christ mutant

[SCalScoreKeeper]

I must say I got a good laugh out of the ESPN board comments on this play.Official made the correct call which is what I would expect a state finals level official to do here or on December 20th.I said on the ESPN board that if I were the official and passed on the T here I'd expect to hear it from the supervisor of officials for the OHSAA.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

That was a great move by the refs(assuming they did it on purpose because it was fairly quick).

It was only a "great move" if you're a fan of the team that benefited.

If you're a fan of the other team, or a fan of basketball, or an official, or you have any sense of fair play, then it was NOT a "great move". Quite the opposite.

[deecee]

Was the dunk a T? In real time I wouldn't be so sure that his momentum caused his positioning and he held on so he didn't fall and land on his back.

With some replays it's still not very cut and dry. Either way a case can be made for both sides. I personally may not have made the call.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

btw, speaking of a pass. In the Open Championship for California, at the end of regulation one team got the rebound with the game tied with about two seconds to go. A player was calling a TO but his team didn't have any. The refs let it go and the game went into OT. That was a great move by the refs(assuming they did it on purpose because it was fairly quick). It would have been a horrible way to end the game so pass on that T if the situation calls for it.

I'm going to assume they didn't see it. Any official who is too scared to make this call shouldn't be working. The philosophy you allude to here does not belong on the court at any level beyond 6th grade YMCA.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

correct call...I can see why the fans are upset because no one is used to that call, but I think it's clear he added a bit after the dunk and the T could have been called. Sure some refs would have passed on it but I don't fault the ref here at all.

btw, speaking of a pass. In the Open Championship for California, at the end of regulation one team got the rebound with the game tied with about two seconds to go. A player was calling a TO but his team didn't have any. The refs let it go and the game went into OT. That was a great move by the refs(assuming they did it on purpose because it was fairly quick). It would have been a horrible way to end the game so pass on that T if the situation calls for it.

You're either an expert troll or a horrible official.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

You're either an expert troll or a horrible official.

Why not both?

Expert Horrible Official Troll or EHOT for short?

[tomegun]

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