Ohio team loses H.S. state title after late hanging-on-the-rim technical foul

[osf777]

Hey everyone. Came to the board today just for this reason. I was actually at this game and nearly even with the hoop on Central Catholic's side at the time of this dunk. When I watched the dunk live, my first instinct was, "that's a technical." Not only did the player emphatically swing forward, you can see him do a little shimmy with his shoulders. The end line angle really does not do the play justice. Had this play happened early in the game, it would not have even been questioned. It was one of those plays where a player is trying to put an exclamation point on a game, which, even with 40 seconds left, was still in some doubt. If the call is going to be correct in the 1st QTR, it should be correct with 40 seconds left in the 4th QTR. I give a lot of credit to the official for applying the technical. In the end it did not cost them the game (as some news outlets eagerly have protested), Defiance took the game from them.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by osf777

Hey everyone. Came to the board today just for this reason. I was actually at this game and nearly even with the hoop on Central Catholic's side at the time of this dunk. When I watched the dunk live, my first instinct was, "that's a technical." Not only did the player emphatically swing forward, you can see him do a little shimmy with his shoulders. The end line angle really does not do the play justice. Had this play happened early in the game, it would not have even been questioned. It was one of those plays where a player is trying to put an exclamation point on a game, which, even with 40 seconds left, was still in some doubt. If the call is going to be correct in the 1st QTR, it should be correct with 40 seconds left in the 4th QTR. I give a lot of credit to the official for applying the technical. In the end it did not cost them the game (as some news outlets eagerly have protested), Defiance took the game from them.

Weren't they up at least a couple possessions-worth of points after the made dunk? I could see making the argument that it "cost" them the game if the dunk had only tied it, but that wouldn't make the call incorrect.

[osf777]

The dunk put C.C.C. up four, then Defiance hit the ensuing free throws. They they got a layup with about 20 seconds left to tie it. Defiance hit some big shots in overtime to deal it, and they hit almost all their free throws.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by osf777

...If the call is going to be correct in the 1st QTR, it should be correct with 40 seconds left in the 4th QTR...

This is my thought on a lot of end-of-game calls that get questioned. While there may be times when you might change the way you call a game based on the time and/or score, this doesn't seem to be one of those times. The outcome of the game is still in question, so call it the right way.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

This is my thought on a lot of end-of-game calls that get questioned. While there may be times when you might change the way you call a game based on the time and/or score, this doesn't seem to be one of those times. The outcome of the game is still in question, so call it the right way.

In all honesty, there are times when I might change how something is called, but it all has to do with reaction to calls, not the calls themselves.

IOW, if a kid or coach reacts a bit more vehemently in the heat of a critical moment, I may choose to let them release some steam. In a blowout or in the second quarter, I may respond a bit differently.

I'm sure some would be offended by that (or by my admitting that), but that's just how I see it.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Mark, Jr., and I finally had a chance to watch the replay of the game this morning. The call was made by the T. And the call was absolutely, 100% correct. As I have stated on some fan boys sites: This was a Casebook Play for what should have and was called in the game.

MTD, Sr.