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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 02:32pm
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Need to know your goals and expectations.
1) Become a better HS Official..Not in my goals to go behind an Elite HS official

2) Obtain a very solid understanding of all aspects of 3 person.
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 02:35pm
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1) Become a better HS Official..Not in my goals to go beyond an Elite HS official

2) Obtain a very solid understanding of all aspects of 3 person.
s/b beyond
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 02:51pm
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1) Become a better HS Official..Not in my goals to go behind an Elite HS official

2) Obtain a very solid understanding of all aspects of 3 person.
Roger Ayers and Mike Eades run a camp in the Lynchburg, VA area with the main goal being instruction.
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:19pm
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Greg Bennett (ODAC) and Dennis Ashcraft (USA South) run the so-called "DIII Supercamp" at U. of Richmond in late June. A little expensive ($375) but worth it in my opinion because you get three full days of games, a nice A/C room to rest in and do video review, a dorm room, and all the food you can eat at the dining hall. Also, their 3-person philosophy is different but good; it will rub some old-timers the wrong way, but once you try it you'll find yourself seeing plays better than before.

Will they pick up a few guys each year? Sure. But it's primarily a teaching camp and it accomplishes this very, very well. I highly recommend it.

Only potential downside is that it's the same weekend as the VHSL teaching camp, so if you're VHSL and you have long-term HS playoff aspirations, this camp should probably be your priority.
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:01pm
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Also, their 3-person philosophy is different but good; it will rub some old-timers the wrong way, but once you try it you'll find yourself seeing plays better than before.
Care to share?
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:01pm
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Also, their 3-person philosophy is different but good; it will rub some old-timers the wrong way, but once you try it you'll find yourself seeing plays better than before.
Can you elaborate a bit on this?
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:02pm
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Old Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:13pm
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Greg Bennett (ODAC) and Dennis Ashcraft (USA South) run the so-called "DIII Supercamp" at U. of Richmond in late June. A little expensive ($375) but worth it in my opinion because you get three full days of games, a nice A/C room to rest in and do video review, a dorm room, and all the food you can eat at the dining hall. Also, their 3-person philosophy is different but good; it will rub some old-timers the wrong way, but once you try it you'll find yourself seeing plays better than before.
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I love Gregg's 3-person philosophies. I used to be against them, but the more I employ them, the better I see plays.

Also, I sent you a private message.
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Old Wed Mar 25, 2015, 06:39am
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I love Gregg's 3-person philosophies. I used to be against them, but the more I employ them, the better I see plays.



Also, I sent you a private message.

It's OK for you to share here. I'm always up for some learning.


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Old Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:31am
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I'll second that
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Old Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:56am
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It's an NBA-ish philosophy (which all college officials will get to know and love if Joe DeRosa takes over for John Adams). Watch what Joe does, particularly once he becomes the C.

The philosophy starts with ball lines. Stay outside the ball lines; always be on the outside looking in.

As for L rotations, don't go simply based on quantity of players. Go because there's either something to officiate or (if you have a good feel for the game) because you anticipate there will be something to officiate. The keys to rotation are a competitive matchup in the post and/or a player on the opposite wing with a teammate either in the corner or moving to the corner. The latter key assumes the offense is setting up for a tray or a baseline drive, and you want to be there to either officiate strong-side rebounding or the drive to the basket. If the keys aren't there, don't rotate. The action is sparse and open enough for the C to handle.

The C should A) one-step open low or open high to get a good look between players, with the priority on opening low if at all possible, and B) not be in a hurry to go back to T if the L rotates to C's side. Stay and officiate! Two C's is not at all bad. The ball is moving to the basket in our game; never move away from where the ball is destined to go unless absolutely necessary. Get angles with subtle movements rather than big ones; it's easier to see plays when you're standing still rather than moving around. Besides, player motion is so erratic and constant in the modern game that the moment you try to get an angle it will probably disappear. So you might as well let the players create the angles for you. They always do.

The T can start in the traditional position, but as the lateral ball line moves in, move in with it. Should you need to transition to C, you'll be that much closer. And once you've moved in, even if you don't rotate to C, stay in, because the ball is probably still headed for the basket (the object is to score, after all). Only if the offense completely resets should the T back out and start over.

So there ya' go.
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Only potential downside is that it's the same weekend as the VHSL teaching camp, so if you're VHSL and you have long-term HS playoff aspirations, this camp should probably be your priority.
I've attended both camps multiple times, and both are great camps. IMO, it depends on where you are on the learning cycle of the 3-person system. If you
are beginning the learning process, the VHSL camp is the one to choose. Later after gaining experience, the D3 camp would be my choice.
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