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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 02:30pm
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The old C needs to quit worrying about the ball. Especially after a monster slam like this and his partner at the table.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 02:44pm
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The old C needs to quit worrying about the ball. Especially after a monster slam like this and his partner at the table.
Yeah, that was as hard to watch as the missed taunting technical.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 05:39pm
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Maybe it's just me?

Did anyone notice the clock on the video? Maybe it's just the TV's version of the electronic scoreboard, but it appears the foul was called at :32. The clock then runs down to :24. While the foul is being reported the clock is reset to :34?

EDIT: Not that this is the most important thing going on in the play. Just interesting to note

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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 06:23pm
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1-Initial thought was a a no call. Hard to tell how much contact occured from the video angle. After repeated viewings it might be a block.

2-PC + T for taunting.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 07:38pm
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I'm much more concerned with the uncalled taunting T than I am with any possibility of missed block/charge plays. The former would get you taken off tournament assignments in my area without question. The latter, by far less likely.

I cannot believe anyone would condone swallowing the whistle on that taunt. You let that go uncalled, and you open the door for all hell to break loose. Who cares what the coach would think? Part of our JOB is to enforce sportsmanship. I wouldn't care if that dunk tied the national championship game. Not a chance I ignore that taunt if I see it and not a chance any supervisor of mine would be happy if I did ignore it.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 09:59pm
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Did anyone notice the clock on the video? Maybe it's just the TV's version of the electronic scoreboard, but it appears the foul was called at :32. The clock then runs down to :24. While the foul is being reported the clock is reset to :34?

EDIT: Not that this is the most important thing going on in the play. Just interesting to note

Lots of times the "clock" at the bottom of the screen isn't sync'd to the game clocks. That's why the monitor reviews need to see a sync'd clock or the stadium clocks, not the TV clock.

If you watch closely, you can see some sort of anomaly with the TV clock on many games.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 08:25pm
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Yeah, that was as hard to watch as the missed taunting technical.
The C has his eyes glued to the ball during the entire video. While I agree with an earlier post that his poor position likely involved a missed rotation, the reason for the missed rotation is ball watching.

Watch his head... He follows the ball the entire clip. This causes him to be terribly out of position to begin and also causes him to miss a very easy and necessary T at the end. At first I thought he saw the taunt and that's why he came sprinting in from half court, but now I'm thinking he just really wanted to get the ball back. He doesn't go to the players and doesn't appear to say anything to diffuse the situation, so it seems he just wanted to hustle in and get the ball.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 08:31pm
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One more point... The taunt is definitely the worst miss in the clip and should have been seen by both the L and the C. I explained why I think the C missed it, but the L really should har been the first to pick it up. He has a foul, successful dunk, and players on the floor. In the context of the game situation he HAS to take those players all the way to the floor. If he would have done this he would have seen the setup for the taunt and should have stayed even longer to let the entire play finish. Instead he races out to report the foul and leaves the players alone with no eyes on them.

Somebody has to get that taunt, and it was missed badly by both the C and T primarily because of positioning and mechanics.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 08:34pm
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The slot and the lead should have been racing to see who could get the T first.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 09:18pm
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The taunting was already over by the time the C was trying to corral the ball. He missed the T by not being at the FTLE and watching the players, not chasing the ball. Lead is most culpable here IMO.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 09:34pm
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If there was a taunt, and I'm not sure that there was(yes it does look it was) then it should have been the lead. That's tough because you are going for the foul motions, but in that situation I'd want the calling ref to see the outcome and wait around a bit more. The lead had the best angle to see if there was a taunt. I can't fault the center ref for not calling it.
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