Block/Charge/No Call? (Video)

[Ref_in_Alberta]

speaking from the FIBA rule set:

1st play - I have no foul on this play.

2nd play - the defender would be awfully close to being inside the no-charge semi-circle so if he were a call on the offense would be incorrect, wouldn't call a block on the defender as he did have LGP just not completely outside the no-charge semi-circle. Assuming the defender was completely outside the no-charge area I see the defender establishing LGP before the offense is airborne so a charge would be the call I'd make.

3rd play - End of a close game and an exciting play where everyone is amped up. I'm probably not going to T this unless there have been issues prior to this time in the game. I'd say something to the player for sure about sportsmanship but I'm unlikely to T the player for the emotional reaction to a high intensity play.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta

speaking from the FIBA rule set:

1st play - I have no foul on this play.

2nd play - the defender would be awfully close to being inside the no-charge semi-circle so if he were a call on the offense would be incorrect, wouldn't call a block on the defender as he did have LGP just not completely outside the no-charge semi-circle. Assuming the defender was completely outside the no-charge area I see the defender establishing LGP before the offense is airborne so a charge would be the call I'd make.

3rd play - End of a close game and an exciting play where everyone is amped up. I'm probably not going to T this unless there have been issues prior to this time in the game. I'd say something to the player for sure about sportsmanship but I'm unlikely to T the player for the emotional reaction to a high intensity play.

There is not RA in the 2nd Play. And I forgot the taunting foul that was not called.

And yes there was a foul in the 1st Play either a block or a charge.

MTD, Sr.

[mutantducky]

anyone see that steal. that was a really slick play.

no call on the first. just some incidental contact, let it go. Too many refs call something there when there is no reason to call a foul.

No call on the second. As for the possible T....hmm. I'd say no for the reasons mentioned by Alberta above but that is very close. That one could go either way.

Nice video!

I've got no calls on both, but that's probably the most obvious taunting T ever. This is why you DON'T LEAVE THE SCENE OF THE FOUL EARLY. Shame on all of you guys saying it's too late in the game or to close of a game to call a T. It's never too late to enforce good sportsmanship.

[rockyroad]

No call.

PC.

T for taunting.

Hard to believe anyone would pass on that taunting. That's pretty blatant. And I am constantly amazed at the things we officials like to "add on" to the rules to justify a call/no-call. Things like "he was falling early"

[bballref3966]

There is zero excuse not to put a whistle on that taunt. Everyone in the gym knows that kind of behavior is supposed to be penalized. That is not even a judgment call; it's a recognition call that merits a whistle whether it's a third grade rec game or the Final Four.

For those who say or imply that they wouldn't call it, how would you be explaining that to the opposing coach or your supervisor if you were in that position?

[crosscountry55]

I think this discussion isn't half as animated if the C isn't completely clueless about his positioning. I just want to reach into the screen and smack him when I watch the video.

Even if he were the T in a 2-p crew he's still way too high and disengaged.

And I'm guessing this was a playoff crew?

Oy vey.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I think this discussion isn't half as animated if the C isn't completely clueless about his positioning. I just want to reach into the screen and smack him when I watch the video.

Even if he were the T in a 2-p crew he's still way too high and disengaged.

And I'm guessing this was a playoff crew?

Oy vey.

My guess is a missed rotation.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta

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3rd play - End of a close game and an exciting play where everyone is amped up. I'm probably not going to T this unless there have been issues prior to this time in the game. I'd say something to the player for sure about sportsmanship but I'm unlikely to T the player for the emotional reaction to a high intensity play.

There is a difference between emotional and taunting. Emotional is running back up court pounding your chest or flexing your biceps. This is standing over a prone player, then bending down to his face to embarrass him further.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

There is a difference between emotional and taunting. Emotional is running back up court pounding your chest or flexing your biceps. This is standing over a prone player, then bending down to his face to embarrass him further.

yep, let him learn to express his emotions properly. I'm sick and tired of people using "emotional game" as an excuse for childish behavior.