Flagrant?

[pfan1981]

At our game tonight....tie up, held ball, one boy gets whipped down to the ground. Kid that whipped the boy to the ground then two hand shoves another kid that came to help his buddy up. Obviously this is a dead ball technical, but would you toss the kid? I will let you know what we did in a bit.

[Nevadaref]

Not with a flagrant foul, but perhaps a DQ because of two technical fouls.
The shove is obviously a technical foul for intentional dead ball contact.
The officials need to ajudge the action at the end of the held ball and decide if it warrants a technical foul for unsporting behavior (noncontact) or intentional dead ball contact.
We on this forum can't advise on that as we haven't seen any video of the play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Not with a flagrant foul, but perhaps a DQ because of two technical fouls.
The shove is obviously a technical foul for intentional dead ball contact.
The officials need to ajudge the action at the end of the held ball and decide if it warrants a technical foul for unsporting behavior (noncontact) or intentional dead ball contact.
We on this forum can't advise on that as we haven't seen any video of the play.

Agreed, with the caveat that the shove itself could potentially qualify as a flagrant, but it's not likely.

[pfan1981]

If the kid shoved back, would they both be ejected for fighting?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

If the kid shoved back, would they both be ejected for fighting?

Probably not, if two shoves are the extent of it.

[biggravy]

Guess I'm in the minority, but I could see sending him packing. In my part of Rome that is actually what the powers that be would want us to do. I think the totality of circumstances like previous action, the event that just occurred, the point in the game, etc help me decide what I am doing there.

[pfan1981]

We charged a flagrant. Thought that a two handed shove was enough. Not sure if I would make the same call. I don't want to be on one of those crazy videos online. There was no way the coach was putting this player back in anyways. One point playoff game tonight......right back on the horse.