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Old Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:57am
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Let's taake a look at Case Book 10.3.6 SITUATION B

The subject has been addressed, and presently puts the onus on the covering official, IOW, it is presently a judgmnt call. How would one move towards less judgment, and more of a codification of the elements involved in such a play?
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Old Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:39am
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Let's taake a look at Case Book 10.3.6 SITUATION B

The subject has been addressed, and presently puts the onus on the covering official, IOW, it is presently a judgment call. How would one move towards less judgment, and more of a codification of the elements involved in such a play?
You probably can't.

Just like the same reason that a ball that hits the foot is not always a kick, sometimes, a ball that hits is not intended to hit that body part. Swinging elbows is an act very much intended to clear space by threatening contact...and if they connect (and even if they don't) it must be dealt with.

I've seen plays where someone is diving for a ball going OOB and slings it back behind them such that it hits someone in the face. They had no idea where it was going other than back towards the court.

We're always going to need to apply judgement to these plays.
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Old Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:55am
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You probably can't.

Just like the same reason that a ball that hits the foot is not always a kick, sometimes, a ball that hits is not intended to hit that body part. Swinging elbows is an act very much intended to clear space by threatening contact...and if they connect (and even if they don't) it must be dealt with.

I've seen plays where someone is diving for a ball going OOB and slings it back behind them such that it hits someone in the face. They had no idea where it was going other than back towards the court.

We're always going to need to apply judgement to these plays.
exactly. I had a play last week where a girl tried to "save" the ball, but it slipped off her fingers and headed right for my head.

No way would I give a T for that.
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Let's taake a look at Case Book 10.3.6 SITUATION B
10.3.6 SITUATION B: A1 has the ball out of bounds for a designated spot
throw-in. B1 is putting great pressure on and the count is at four seconds when
A1 throws the ball and it strikes B1’s face. The ball rebounds from B1’s face
directly out of bounds. RULING: The administering official will have to make a
decision based upon a number of observations. Was the throw-in to B1’s face
purely accidental or was it a voluntary, planned act? Was the ball contact caused
by the movement of the defender? Was the act of a an unsporting nature? The
administering official must be aware that players often react negatively in situations
where they are frustrated or are retaliating for something which happened
earlier in the game.
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