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AremRed Mon Feb 09, 2015 01:00pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954346)
Glad they tore down the statue of Joe Paterno.
You'll be happy to hear they are putting it back up!

Raymond Mon Feb 09, 2015 02:06pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954346)
Nope, I'm sick of this country revering athletes and coaches. Many of whom turn out to be other than the image they projected.
Glad they tore down the statue of Joe Paterno. The same should be done with several others.
Stories like this have nothing to do with why Dean Smith is loved by his former players:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...on-integration

In 1966, Scott became North Carolina's first African-American scholarship player and one of the first black athletes to sign at a major school south of the Mason-Dixon line.

Smith's father, Alfred, had integrated his Kansas high school team in the 1930s, and the Tar Heels coach was only following his old man's lead when he walked into a segregated Chapel Hill restaurant in the company of a black pastor and black student in the late 1950s to ensure they received service. Smith spoke up on behalf of black friends trying to cope with real estate agents who were steering them away from white neighborhoods, and four years before he signed Scott -- and right after he took the North Carolina job -- Smith tried to make Lou Hudson the first black player in the ACC. (Hudson reportedly didn't meet the school's academic requirements and enrolled at Minnesota.)

Raymond Mon Feb 09, 2015 02:10pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954346)
Nope, I'm sick of this country revering athletes and coaches. Many of whom turn out to be other than the image they projected.
Glad they tore down the statue of Joe Paterno. The same should be done with several others.
Or maybe it's this type of story that led to his competitors liking him.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...yalty-teamwork

APG Mon Feb 09, 2015 02:55pm
Nevada...what in the actual ****?

Take a day or two, and come to your senses before you start posting again.

BktBallRef Mon Feb 09, 2015 05:32pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954348)
What difference does that make? My point was clearly that if either team had scored with the final possession instead of committing a turnover, UNC would most likely have lost.
It's not as if UNC was leading by ten points and these plays didn't have a significant impact on the outcome of the games.
But they didn't score, did they????

Fred Brown felt the pressure of the moment, choked and threw the ball away.

Chris Webber felt the pressure of the moment, choked and called a timeout that everyone else in the SuperDome knew they didn't have.

The fact is YOU HAVE TO FINISH THE GAME! The NCAA Champions of 1982 and 1993 finished the ****ing game. Georgetown and Michigan choked!

BktBallRef Mon Feb 09, 2015 05:38pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 954384)
Stories like this have nothing to do with why Dean Smith is loved by his former players:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...on-integration

In 1966, Scott became North Carolina's first African-American scholarship player and one of the first black athletes to sign at a major school south of the Mason-Dixon line.

Smith's father, Alfred, had integrated his Kansas high school team in the 1930s, and the Tar Heels coach was only following his old man's lead when he walked into a segregated Chapel Hill restaurant in the company of a black pastor and black student in the late 1950s to ensure they received service. Smith spoke up on behalf of black friends trying to cope with real estate agents who were steering them away from white neighborhoods, and four years before he signed Scott -- and right after he took the North Carolina job -- Smith tried to make Lou Hudson the first black player in the ACC. (Hudson reportedly didn't meet the school's academic requirements and enrolled at Minnesota.)
Another story from his life...

Dean Smith stood before the Governor of the State of NC and argued against the death penalty. He pointed the Governor and each of his cabinet members and said, "You're a murderer, you're a murderer, you're a murder..." and lastly he said, "...and I'm a murderer." Whether you're for or against capital punishment, I would think most would admire a man who would take such a stand, who would make such a statement.

BillyMac Mon Feb 09, 2015 05:56pm
And The Hits Just Keep On Coming ...
 
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 954420)
Another story from his life...
Smith's church served as a base for his advocacy. He joined the Baptist congregation soon after arriving in Chapel Hill, helping build it from a 60-person gathering on campus to a full church with 600 parishioners. It was booted from the Southern Baptist Convention and the North Carolina Baptist State Convention in 1992 for licensing a gay man to minister.

"He was willing to take controversial stands on a number of things as a member of our church — being against the death penalty, affirming gays and lesbians, protesting nuclear proliferation," said Robert Seymour, the former pastor at Binkley Baptist Church. "He was one who has been willing to speak out on issues that many might hesitate to take a stand on."

Adam Mon Feb 09, 2015 07:36pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 954420)
Another story from his life...

Dean Smith stood before the Governor of the State of NC and argued against the death penalty. He pointed the Governor and each of his cabinet members and said, "You're a murderer, you're a murderer, you're a murder..." and lastly he said, "...and I'm a murderer." Whether you're for or against capital punishment, I would think most would admire a man who would take such a stand, who would make such a statement.
But by all means let's lump him into a discussion of the worst scandal in the history of college sports. Good !^€×!#@ grief.

BktBallRef Mon Feb 09, 2015 08:43pm
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But by all means let's lump him into a discussion of the worst scandal in the history of college sports. Good !^€×!#@ grief.
Well, what are you gonna do, Adam? Some people just have no couth whatsoever. 😕

BktBallRef Mon Feb 09, 2015 08:51pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954346)
Nope, I'm sick of this country revering athletes and coaches. Many of whom turn out to be other than the image they projected.
Glad they tore down the statue of Joe Paterno. The same should be done with several others.
If you had any discernment at all, you would understand that 95% of the discussion is about what a great man he was, citing the things he did away from the basketball court.

He was a great coach but he was an even better human being.

JRutledge Mon Feb 09, 2015 09:02pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954346)
Nope, I'm sick of this country revering athletes and coaches. Many of whom turn out to be other than the image they projected.
Glad they tore down the statue of Joe Paterno. The same should be done with several others.
Couldn't you say that about anyone? I have had several people die that I know only to find out that some things were not what we seemed in the family. The reason we revere these people in sports is the same reason we revere people in business or politics or other professions when people are successful or have influenced a lot of people. Sports is no different than other parts of life.

Peace


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