NBA - Chris Paul Criticizing a Female Official

[Adam]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

From ESPN.com:
TORONTO -- National Basketball Players Association executive director Michele Roberts said any suggestion that Los Angeles Clippers guard Chris Paul would be disrespectful toward women is "utterly ridiculous, outrageous and patently false," hours after the head of the National Basketball Referees Association called the All-Star's comments on official Lauren Holtkamp "personal and unprofessional."

"Without hesitation, the Players Association stands firmly behind Chris, whose competitiveness may only be exceeded by the strength of his values and his conviction," Roberts said in a statement.

On Friday, Paul repeatedly said it was "a bad call" that prompted him to criticize Holtkamp's officiating Thursday night -- nothing more.
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As I've said before, a person can infer whatever meaning they want to Chris Pauls' comments, however they run the risk of being entirely wrong. Unfortunately, it seems as though you've taken his comments out of context and assigned gender-discrimination to them inaccurately.

btw - Did you know that Violet Palmer was assigned to work the 1997 NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball Tournament only to have that assignment revoked when "people" complained about having a woman officiate men's games? Now THAT is a case of comments/actions being taken because of a person's gender….THIS (Chris Paul) is not.

So the union stands behind their president? Oh, never mind then.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

So the union stands behind their president? Oh, never mind then.

He would've never said anything had this been a male. He would've been another nameless, faceless official. One person here seems to think otherwise. He's wrong.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

He would've never said anything had this been a male. He would've been another nameless, faceless official. One person here seems to think otherwise. He's wrong.

Agreed.

[Rob1968]

Many years ago, a rookie ref called a foul on Michael Jordan, near the end of a close game, against the Utah Jazz. When Mr. Jordan verbally objected, with something along the lines of, "You can't call that on me!" the ref T'd him and tossed him. The Jazz won the game.
That rookie ref lost his schedule for the rest of the season, and was brought back the next season, "on probation". It was understood by the officials, and those of us who knew the background of the situation, that A) nobody comes to watch the refs, and B) nobody comes to watch the 11th or 12th player on the bench.

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Many years ago, a rookie ref called a foul on Michael Jordan, near the end of a close game, against the Utah Jazz. When Mr. Jordan verbally objected, with something along the lines of, "You can't call that on me!" the ref T'd him and tossed him. The Jazz won the game.
That rookie ref lost his schedule for the rest of the season, and was brought back the next season, "on probation". It was understood by the officials, and those of us who knew the background of the situation, that A) nobody comes to watch the refs, and B) nobody comes to watch the 11th or 12th player on the bench.

Got a citation for this bit of trivia?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Jealousy....typical HS association backbiting towards officials who choose to rise to upper levels of officiating.

Originally Posted by Adam

Even if she was a horrible official when there (doubtful), the local officials should STFU. I wouldn't want to work with any of them, personally.

The guy that said it hasn't worked long enough to have worked with her. I know she worked MS games here but I'm not sure if she ever worked much varsity before she moved away.

The main comment had to do with how the official thought she needs to go work in the WNBA. Typical sexist stuff.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Got a citation for this bit of trivia?

I watched the game. And the follow-up portion of my narative came from 2 NBA refs, one of whom, as a guest speeker, recited the story to our officiating group of aprox. 150 officials. The other confirmed the story in personal conversations, with me and others of my officiating colleagues.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

I watched the game. And the follow-up portion of my narative came from 2 NBA refs, one of whom, as a guest speeker, recited the story to our officiating group of aprox. 150 officials. The other confirmed the story in personal conversations, with me and others of my officiating colleagues.

Don't forget that the NBA has clamped down quite a bit on player behavior in the past several years.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Many years ago, a rookie ref called a foul on Michael Jordan, near the end of a close game, against the Utah Jazz. When Mr. Jordan verbally objected, with something along the lines of, "You can't call that on me!" the ref T'd him and tossed him. The Jazz won the game.
That rookie ref lost his schedule for the rest of the season, and was brought back the next season, "on probation". It was understood by the officials, and those of us who knew the background of the situation, that A) nobody comes to watch the refs, and B) nobody comes to watch the 11th or 12th player on the bench.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Got a citation for this bit of trivia?

Here's the clip of what is likely the game in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErOSUnO1oH0

I can't confirm or deny the allegations that the rookie ref lost his schedule.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Here's the clip of what is likely the game in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErOSUnO1oH0

I can't confirm or deny the allegations that the rookie ref lost his schedule.

Jordan and Phil Jackson had it coming. Wouldn't be the first time a bus got run over an official who properly ejected a player.

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Here's the clip of what is likely the game in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErOSUnO1oH0

I can't confirm or deny the allegations that the rookie ref lost his schedule.

Looks like a good ejection for me.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Here's the clip of what is likely the game in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErOSUnO1oH0

I can't confirm or deny the allegations that the rookie ref lost his schedule.

If that were to happen today, the broadcasters would've roasted the officials for the remainder of the game about the officials taking the game out of the players' hands.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Many years ago, a rookie ref called a foul on Michael Jordan, near the end of a close game, against the Utah Jazz. When Mr. Jordan verbally objected, with something along the lines of, "You can't call that on me!" the ref T'd him and tossed him. The Jazz won the game.
That rookie ref lost his schedule for the rest of the season, and was brought back the next season, "on probation". It was understood by the officials, and those of us who knew the background of the situation, that A) nobody comes to watch the refs, and B) nobody comes to watch the 11th or 12th player on the bench.

That's BS. The official is doing his job, and the league doesn't back him up? I get that the NBA is more entertainment than basketball, but this is low. Star or not, you should not be allowed to yell at an official and criticize his call. The official was right. How did he turn out in the end? Did the NBA fire him after his probationary period, or did he stay on and be successful? If I was a D1 assigner, I'd give this guy a job on the spot if the NBA fired him.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

That's BS. The official is doing his job, and the league doesn't back him up? I get that the NBA is more entertainment than basketball, but this is low. Star or not, you should not be allowed to yell at an official and criticize his call. The official was right. How did he turn out in the end? Did the NBA fire him after his probationary period, or did he stay on and be successful? If I was a D1 assigner, I'd give this guy a job on the spot if the NBA fired him.

You apparently don't understand the job. That statement was not T-worthy at that level.