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In some locations, a coach/teacher/etc. is prohibited by law to have a relationship with a student irregardless of age (As Adam and MutantDucky have already stated here). If I recall, the idea is that the coach/teachr is an authority figure who might take advantage of that status (such as promising a passing grade on an exam or promising a starting spot in the upcoming crosstown rivalry game).
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I'm FROM Iowa, but I can assure you the elevation there is nowhere near 7000 feet.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:23am
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Let me first say that by no means do I condone this scum bag's actions.

However...he's convicted without ANY physical evidence and no witness accounts other than "heard sex noises". Also no mention of the mother's role during trial? Maybe there was more than the article states but this seems like a jury was going to punish him based on allegation. Probably deserved what he got...but I hate seeing anybody convicted without any physical evidence...this will haunt him the rest of his life.

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In some locations, a coach/teacher/etc. is prohibited by law to have a relationship with a student irregardless of age
It's probably not against the law, but workplace romances can also be difficult, especially when one of the romantics is the other one's superior. This could lead to sexual harassment claims against the company.

Single basketball officials who date hot, single, moms need to block that school off their schedule.
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... without ANY physical evidence ...
Text messages?
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 12:27pm
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Guilty until proven innocent in cases like this, it seems.

(And I have a 10-year-old daughter and I know there are creeps out there. But it seems like a flimsy case. I hope there was more than reported.)
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Guilty until proven innocent in cases like this, it seems.

(And I have a 10-year-old daughter and I know there are creeps out there. But it seems like a flimsy case. I hope there was more than reported.)
Isn't there always more than was reported?
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:16pm
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Isn't there always more than was reported?
Oh, I'm sure. But juries are filled with moms and dads, too.
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Guilty until proven innocent in cases like this, it seems.

(And I have a 10-year-old daughter and I know there are creeps out there. But it seems like a flimsy case. I hope there was more than reported.)
I would think that, since I read the article in about 30 seconds, there would probably be a LOT more than reported. I can't imagine a case only needing about 30 seconds to present all the facts.
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Guilty until proven innocent in cases like this, it seems.

(And I have a 10-year-old daughter and I know there are creeps out there. But it seems like a flimsy case. I hope there was more than reported.)
He was charged with 2nd degree sexual abuse. Felony. In Oregon that requires proof of penetration. Prosecutors thought they had enough. started trial. defense motion, out of presence of jury, says there isnt enough to even let the jury consider whether 2nd degree occurred. judge agrees. (that was the mid trial motion) prosecutors amend charge/reduce it to 3rd degree. misdemeanor. requires only proof that they had sexual contact. much less required. noises and text messages are enough.
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...noises and text messages are enough...
To prove sexual contact? Really?
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:42pm
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To prove sexual contact? Really?
They can be evidence, yes, if they admitted such contact in the messages. Similar to a phone recording.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 01:47pm
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They can be evidence, yes, if they admitted such contact in the messages. Similar to a phone recording.
Guess that's understandable. That's probably an aspect of the evidence that was never made public.
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