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Mark Padgett Thu Jan 29, 2015 06:41pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 952776)
I wonder what she said to get the second T.

"Nice call, Fatso." :eek:

Raymond Thu Jan 29, 2015 07:04pm

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Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 952784)
Nor does anyone acknowledge #24 white slamming the ball in disgust...a guaranteed T there as well. This just makes the entire crew look BAD all around. I'm kind of surprised the governing body even saw fit to post it.

And I disagree with the headline of the web post...Poor mechanics didn't cause the ejection...I'd say poor game management was more to blame.

Causes <> Results

The end result of the officials mistakes was a coach's ejection. That is how my supervisor would characterize it also.

APG Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:04pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 952796)
Causes <> Results

The end result of the officials mistakes was a coach's ejection. That is how my supervisor would characterize it also.

I tend to agree. Yes, could the coach keep a calm head? Sure. But I'd venture a large majority of coaches would end up getting a T here.

Do we miss calls sometimes....even if we're doing everything we should? Yup. But it's going to be hard for any supervisor to back his officials when a call is missed due to the absolute failure in the basic mechanics of the system.

AremRed Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:25pm

1. I've got a common foul. Defender is a bit too aggressive and follows through with her swim move to front the player, but I don't see windup or impact. The girl goes flying cuz she's 70 pounds.

2. Really curious what the first whistle was. Looks like C is coming in with a late foul.

3. White #24 slamming the ball needs to be addressed one way or the other. Not really sure why she's slamming the ball down but there's no need for that.

4. Give the first T and get away. Don't go to the table right away if you have to go past the coach.

5. Technical foul on that dude's moustache.

Raymond Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:00am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 952815)
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2. Really curious what the first whistle was. Looks like C is coming in with a late foul.

3. White #24 slamming the ball needs to be addressed one way or the other. Not really sure why she's slamming the ball down but there's no need for that.

5..

That wasn't his fist, that was glare off of his head.

AremRed Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:12am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 952822)
That wasn't his fist, that was glare off of his head.

Yeah I guess that would be asking too much. It's nice to see a college referee having so much restraint with the second T though...

JRutledge Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:39am

I do not know what this official was watching. At the very least call something on someone.

And if you are going to call a T, you do not need to look at them when doing it. Just make the call and keep it moving.

Peace

Rich Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:45am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 952824)
I do not know what this official was watching. At the very least call something on someone.

And if you are going to call a T, you do not need to look at them when doing it. Just make the call and keep it moving.

Peace

3-person, it's so easy. Call the technical and go get the ball and shoot the free throws. Do not stop at the table, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Or if the shots are at the end with the coach who just got whacked, go straight to the division line and let your partners administer the free throws.

Too many guys want to call one and then stick around. Why? Hoping the coach says something else so you can chunk him?

ODog Fri Jan 30, 2015 08:14am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 952823)
It's nice to see a college referee having so much restraint with the second T though...

I know you're being sarcastic overall, but what makes you think he's a college official? His choice to purchase a shirt with side panels?

Scuba_ref Fri Jan 30, 2015 01:45pm

In NCAA women's mechanics the Lead has responsibility for that corner. Having said that we pregame that the Lead will not leave a competative match up in the post to pick up the deep corner. In that scenario the Trail needs to recognize that the Lead can't get to the corner and needs to pick it up.

Rich Fri Jan 30, 2015 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 952815)
1. I've got a common foul. Defender is a bit too aggressive and follows through with her swim move to front the player, but I don't see windup or impact. The girl goes flying cuz she's 70 pounds.

2. Really curious what the first whistle was. Looks like C is coming in with a late foul.

3. White #24 slamming the ball needs to be addressed one way or the other. Not really sure why she's slamming the ball down but there's no need for that.

4. Give the first T and get away. Don't go to the table right away if you have to go past the coach.

5. Technical foul on that dude's moustache.


The ball "slam" was nothing I'd bother with, to be honest. Not like it went 20 feet in the air and there was more important stuff to do.

(Like ejecting the coach and playing Captain Kangaroo at the town picnic apparently....)

TriggerMN Fri Jan 30, 2015 02:00pm

I didn't realize Mr. Moneybags the Monopoly guy was officiating basketball these days.

HokiePaul Fri Jan 30, 2015 02:59pm

Don't disagree with the headline either.

The mechanics (whether it be missing rough post play or the horrible mechanics of an exaggerated T signal right in the coaches face or the poor mechanics of not getting away from the coach and letting your partner(s) get the second T if necessary) did absolutely cause that ejection.

The coach's actions deserved a single T. That's it.
The second T (and ejection) only happened because of poor mechanics.

deecee Fri Jan 30, 2015 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by TriggerMN (Post 952914)
I didn't realize Mr. Moneybags the Monopoly guy was officiating basketball these days.

He took a real hit in real estate in late 00's (is that how we identify that decade?).

twocentsworth Fri Jan 30, 2015 03:56pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 952768)
Nice biased headline. F you, OHSAA Basketball Officials website.

Poor mechanics resulting in an ejection of the coach ... my backside.

Does the coach have a gripe? Heck yeah. Do the refs need to stop ball hawking? Heck yeah.

But it was "Coach loses her $hi+ resulting in an ejection of the coach"

Actually, the headline has it EXACTLY right!!!! Not only did the official exhibit poor mechanics, he displayed a total inability to deal w/ a coach and handle the situation. Did I mentioned he assessed two T's in less than :04?

If the assignor is any good, THAT official won't work in that league for a LOOOOONG time....


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