Yikes...
 

Stumbled upon this while casually surfing the web. Thoughts? I'd be embarrassed to be the officials on the clip.

http://ohsaabasketball.com/video/poo...-of-the-coach/

Nice biased headline. F you, OHSAA Basketball Officials website.

Poor mechanics resulting in an ejection of the coach ... my backside.

Does the coach have a gripe? Heck yeah. Do the refs need to stop ball hawking? Heck yeah.

But it was "Coach loses her $hi+ resulting in an ejection of the coach"

I don't disagree with the OHSAA.

Coaches are responsible for their own reactions. This headline basically says the coach is not expected to behave if an official screws up.

The referees absolutely screwed up. And I would hope they get reprimanded (heck, their failure is on the state refereeing website... so I suspect they did or will). But the referee screw up, even one as egregious as this, does not absolve the coaches of their actions. The referee failure did not CAUSE the ejection... the coach's reaction to it did.

What exactly is the Lead doing? (Besides not watching two players wrestle in the paint and having a goofy technical foul signal)

I also love how when there is a player on the floor and a whistle finally blows, no one closes in on the play. They all just kind of wander around. Pretty bad situational awareness.

And the coach will pay for her reaction with a suspension. Knowing people that officiate in the OHSAA, ejections are not able to be appealed. This wasn't missing a judgment call. This was an utter disaster in mechanics. And I think you would agree that if not for the breakdown in mechanics, the coach's reaction never happens.

I'm not sure I agree. One technical, fine. The coach had that coming. If I were her, I'd probably get one myself.

But why stay around to give a second one there THAT QUICKLY? It's unrealistic to think a coach is going to get a technical foul and go from 10 to 0 on the angry meter and sit right down. Get out of there, let the coach vent while the FTs are being shot, and if a non-calling official has to sit the coach down, it's a minute later.

I've seen some film the last few weeks. So important for these officials to call a technical and then go all the way over to the table to report it...why? So they can stay in the kitchen of the coach they just whacked?

I don't care about the headline...though if I was on the court, I PERSONALLY, would have felt the ejection was on us...even if the T's were absolutely warranted. I'd rather discuss the mechanics and positioning at play here.

This is a failure to work the 3-man system properly. This is an active match up in the lead's primarily. He has nothing else to be distracting him...but he ball watches as the ball goes out to the wing.

The slot also has a great opportunity to get this. It looks like the majority of the players are strong side and no active match ups in his are. Extend to your secondary and find an active match up...in this case, it would be the action in the post. He puts air in this whistle, and all the L can say after the game is thanks for saving my ass.

Wow. Either the L or the C should have seen that. There was nothing going on that would even have caused either one of them to even peripherally notice anything near where the ball was at the time.

I wonder what she said to get the second T. I don't even think she was all that out of control given what happened. Maybe one T. I've had coaches go way more apesh!t over a lot less. And the dude who missed it tosses her. Thankfully it's on tape. Embarrassing video for that crew.

Was the C coming in with a late whistle for the foul? Can't tell if he's got a fist. Or if he's just stopping play b/c the player was down.

Looks like an open hand - stopping play because she was hurt. They all look clueless.

I think it was the scream she directed right in his face that did it.

Back to the original play. What would you consider calling here? There seems to be intent on the defender's part and she did go high on her opponent...

He T'd her right in the face, too. Who does that? Just a horrible sequence from beginning to end.

I don't think there was intent to do anything but clear the kid away. The result was more because the offensive player was so much shorter than the defender and she just happened to get whacked in the neck. I don't see anything but a common foul.

Nice of no one to even go check on the kid who's on the floor.

I wasn't defending it, just trying to explain it.

Nor does anyone acknowledge #24 white slamming the ball in disgust...a guaranteed T there as well. This just makes the entire crew look BAD all around. I'm kind of surprised the governing body even saw fit to post it.

And I disagree with the headline of the web post...Poor mechanics didn't cause the ejection...I'd say poor game management was more to blame.

"Nice call, Fatso." :eek:

Causes <> Results

The end result of the officials mistakes was a coach's ejection. That is how my supervisor would characterize it also.

I tend to agree. Yes, could the coach keep a calm head? Sure. But I'd venture a large majority of coaches would end up getting a T here.

Do we miss calls sometimes....even if we're doing everything we should? Yup. But it's going to be hard for any supervisor to back his officials when a call is missed due to the absolute failure in the basic mechanics of the system.

1. I've got a common foul. Defender is a bit too aggressive and follows through with her swim move to front the player, but I don't see windup or impact. The girl goes flying cuz she's 70 pounds.

2. Really curious what the first whistle was. Looks like C is coming in with a late foul.

3. White #24 slamming the ball needs to be addressed one way or the other. Not really sure why she's slamming the ball down but there's no need for that.

4. Give the first T and get away. Don't go to the table right away if you have to go past the coach.

5. Technical foul on that dude's moustache.

That wasn't his fist, that was glare off of his head.

Yeah I guess that would be asking too much. It's nice to see a college referee having so much restraint with the second T though...

I do not know what this official was watching. At the very least call something on someone.

And if you are going to call a T, you do not need to look at them when doing it. Just make the call and keep it moving.

Peace

3-person, it's so easy. Call the technical and go get the ball and shoot the free throws. Do not stop at the table, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Or if the shots are at the end with the coach who just got whacked, go straight to the division line and let your partners administer the free throws.

Too many guys want to call one and then stick around. Why? Hoping the coach says something else so you can chunk him?

I know you're being sarcastic overall, but what makes you think he's a college official? His choice to purchase a shirt with side panels?

In NCAA women's mechanics the Lead has responsibility for that corner. Having said that we pregame that the Lead will not leave a competative match up in the post to pick up the deep corner. In that scenario the Trail needs to recognize that the Lead can't get to the corner and needs to pick it up.

The ball "slam" was nothing I'd bother with, to be honest. Not like it went 20 feet in the air and there was more important stuff to do.

(Like ejecting the coach and playing Captain Kangaroo at the town picnic apparently....)

I didn't realize Mr. Moneybags the Monopoly guy was officiating basketball these days.

Don't disagree with the headline either.

The mechanics (whether it be missing rough post play or the horrible mechanics of an exaggerated T signal right in the coaches face or the poor mechanics of not getting away from the coach and letting your partner(s) get the second T if necessary) did absolutely cause that ejection.

The coach's actions deserved a single T. That's it.
The second T (and ejection) only happened because of poor mechanics.

He took a real hit in real estate in late 00's (is that how we identify that decade?).

Actually, the headline has it EXACTLY right!!!! Not only did the official exhibit poor mechanics, he displayed a total inability to deal w/ a coach and handle the situation. Did I mentioned he assessed two T's in less than :04?

If the assignor is any good, THAT official won't work in that league for a LOOOOONG time....

There are situations where I could see giving two technicals just as quickly.

Would involve the words used by the coach after the first one. A "GYF" would result in a quickie.

I'm not defending the crew. How something happens in the paint in a three-person crew undetected is beyond me.