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zm1283 Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:12pm

Baylor @ OK State Block/Charge (Video)
 
17:59 in 2nd half.

Block/charge/travel play.

APG Sat Jan 31, 2015 05:11pm

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APG Sat Jan 31, 2015 05:13pm

One could also discuss whether under NCAA-M interpretation, whether this should have been in the act of shooting. Should the center have provided information to the calling official (assuming he had any)? Would you give that information to the calling official if you were in the C's position (assuming you had it before the act)?

just another ref Sat Jan 31, 2015 05:30pm

The pivot foot returns to the floor before the ball is released.

Rich Sat Jan 31, 2015 06:47pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 953085)
The pivot foot returns to the floor before the ball is released.

Right foot pivot. Never comes back down.

just another ref Sat Jan 31, 2015 07:35pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 953101)
Right foot pivot. Never comes back down.

Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.

Raymond Sat Jan 31, 2015 08:54pm

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Originally Posted by APG (Post 953083)
One could also discuss whether under NCAA-M interpretation, whether this should have been in the act of shooting. Should the center have provided information to the calling official (assuming he had any)? Would you give that information to the calling official if you were in the C's position (assuming you had it before the act)?

only if he asked

APG Sat Jan 31, 2015 08:55pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 953135)
only if the asked

Would time and score change your opinion? I'm also guessing who your assignor is would change that as well?

Camron Rust Sat Jan 31, 2015 09:52pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 953121)
Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.

Agree....he has the ball in both hands with it above his head with his left foot still on the ground. Left foot is the pivot. Travel.

But he was fouled first....and it was a block.

zm1283 Sun Feb 01, 2015 03:09pm

I thought it was a travel when first watching it, but the contact does happen before his left foot (Which was his pivot foot) comes back down to the floor.

Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.

Anyone think the Lead was too wide?

AremRed Sun Feb 01, 2015 03:39pm

I have a charge on this play. Don't see what the defender did wrong.

Raymond Sun Feb 01, 2015 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 953206)
I thought it was a travel when first watching it, but the contact does happen before his left foot (Which was his pivot foot) comes back down to the floor.

Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.

Anyone think the Lead was too wide?

He was still running up the court in transition, with players beside him. Where would you preferred he go? :confused:

BTW, I think it was a PC.

zm1283 Sun Feb 01, 2015 03:45pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 953214)
He was still running up the court in transition, with players beside him. Where would you preferred he go? :confused:

BTW, I think it was a PC.

I think it is a PC foul too.

The Lead pulls up around the FT line extended and coasts the rest of the way to the endline. Would anyone rather see this play coming at them instead of looking at it from the side?

Raymond Sun Feb 01, 2015 03:55pm

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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 953217)
I think it is a PC foul too.

The Lead pulls up around the FT line extended and coasts the rest of the way to the endline. Would anyone rather see this play coming at them instead of looking at it from the side?

Even at full speed he wasn't going to make it to the endline in time to receive the play. He would have been putting on the brakes just as contact was occurring.

AremRed Sun Feb 01, 2015 04:06pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 953219)
Even at full speed he wasn't going to make it to the endline in time to receive the play. He would have been putting on the brakes just as contact was occurring.

Exactly. Even the fastest guys get caught out sometimes and have to make a tough decision from a bad angle. I think if Lead was watching the defender the whole time then I think he would have had a charge even from his angle.


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