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mutantducky Sun Feb 01, 2015 07:24pm

charge. That's good D.

Camron Rust Sun Feb 01, 2015 08:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 953206)
Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.

Contact was mostly on the leg (thigh/knee) outside the frame of the defender's torso.

APG Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:18pm

I have a charge on the play...defender is legal...offensive player tries to slip past the defender but fails.

MechanicGuy Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:34pm

Tough to see where the contact with defender was, looked like it might have been almost knee-to-knee.

But the travel is almost as easy as they get. Ridiculous to count that bucket.

Rich Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:33am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 953121)
Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.

Barely...I won't disagree. Real time, realistically, I'd probably consider the gather to be in the air, which makes the right foot the pivot.

Rich Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy (Post 953247)
Tough to see where the contact with defender was, looked like it might have been almost knee-to-knee.

But the travel is almost as easy as they get. Ridiculous to count that bucket.

Easy? That's a joke.

bainsey Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 953212)
I have a charge on this play. Don't see what the defender did wrong.

Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"

MechanicGuy Mon Feb 02, 2015 01:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 953278)
Easy? That's a joke.

Maybe my characterization was too strong. Its closer than I thought at first.

Still a travel though :D

MechanicGuy Mon Feb 02, 2015 01:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 953283)
Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"

I don't think he pointed the other way. He was merely counting the basket.

APG Mon Feb 02, 2015 01:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 953283)
Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"

Block, count the basket

AremRed Mon Feb 02, 2015 03:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 953283)
What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"

Block, count the basket. This is exactly why I changed my "and 1" mechanic last year, another official pointed out that it was too similar to an offensive foul signal.

JugglingReferee Tue Feb 03, 2015 01:18pm

I do believe I see a travel, but not before a PC.

To call a block and count the basket is incorrect imho.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Feb 03, 2015 02:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 953283)
Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"

He was using something similar to the NCAA-W score-the-goal signal (which I see a lot of men's officials use), as opposed to the by-the-book NCAA-M signal (not sure if I've actually ever seen someone use it outside of a HS or juco game) for that.

Adam Tue Feb 03, 2015 03:09pm

I wouldn't have been able to get that travel in real time.

I've got a PC foul.

If he calls a block, with the NCAA change to "upward motion" being the start of the shooting motion, this would be a foul before the shot.

Raymond Tue Feb 03, 2015 03:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 953528)
I wouldn't have been able to get that travel in real time.

I've got a PC foul.

If he calls a block, with the NCAA change to "upward motion" being the start of the shooting motion, this would be a foul before the shot.

I think the "travel" posts are in reference to the fact that by the time he released the shot he had traveled, so we shouldn't be counting the basket.


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