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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:47pm
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The pivot foot returns to the floor before the ball is released.
Right foot pivot. Never comes back down.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:35pm
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Right foot pivot. Never comes back down.
Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 09:52pm
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Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.
Agree....he has the ball in both hands with it above his head with his left foot still on the ground. Left foot is the pivot. Travel.

But he was fouled first....and it was a block.
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I thought it was a travel when first watching it, but the contact does happen before his left foot (Which was his pivot foot) comes back down to the floor.

Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.

Anyone think the Lead was too wide?
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 03:39pm
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I have a charge on this play. Don't see what the defender did wrong.
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I have a charge on this play. Don't see what the defender did wrong.
Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
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Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
I don't think he pointed the other way. He was merely counting the basket.
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Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
Block, count the basket
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What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
Block, count the basket. This is exactly why I changed my "and 1" mechanic last year, another official pointed out that it was too similar to an offensive foul signal.
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Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
He was using something similar to the NCAA-W score-the-goal signal (which I see a lot of men's officials use), as opposed to the by-the-book NCAA-M signal (not sure if I've actually ever seen someone use it outside of a HS or juco game) for that.
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I thought it was a travel when first watching it, but the contact does happen before his left foot (Which was his pivot foot) comes back down to the floor.

Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.

Anyone think the Lead was too wide?
He was still running up the court in transition, with players beside him. Where would you preferred he go?

BTW, I think it was a PC.
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He was still running up the court in transition, with players beside him. Where would you preferred he go?

BTW, I think it was a PC.
I think it is a PC foul too.

The Lead pulls up around the FT line extended and coasts the rest of the way to the endline. Would anyone rather see this play coming at them instead of looking at it from the side?
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I think it is a PC foul too.

The Lead pulls up around the FT line extended and coasts the rest of the way to the endline. Would anyone rather see this play coming at them instead of looking at it from the side?
Even at full speed he wasn't going to make it to the endline in time to receive the play. He would have been putting on the brakes just as contact was occurring.
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Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.
Contact was mostly on the leg (thigh/knee) outside the frame of the defender's torso.
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I have a charge on the play...defender is legal...offensive player tries to slip past the defender but fails.
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