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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 07:24pm
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charge. That's good D.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 08:07pm
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Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.
Contact was mostly on the leg (thigh/knee) outside the frame of the defender's torso.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 11:18pm
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I have a charge on the play...defender is legal...offensive player tries to slip past the defender but fails.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 11:34pm
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Tough to see where the contact with defender was, looked like it might have been almost knee-to-knee.

But the travel is almost as easy as they get. Ridiculous to count that bucket.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 12:33am
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Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.
Barely...I won't disagree. Real time, realistically, I'd probably consider the gather to be in the air, which makes the right foot the pivot.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 12:34am
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Tough to see where the contact with defender was, looked like it might have been almost knee-to-knee.

But the travel is almost as easy as they get. Ridiculous to count that bucket.
Easy? That's a joke.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 12:57am
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I have a charge on this play. Don't see what the defender did wrong.
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What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 01:08am
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Easy? That's a joke.
Maybe my characterization was too strong. Its closer than I thought at first.

Still a travel though
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Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
I don't think he pointed the other way. He was merely counting the basket.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 01:16am
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Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
Block, count the basket
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 03:17am
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What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
Block, count the basket. This is exactly why I changed my "and 1" mechanic last year, another official pointed out that it was too similar to an offensive foul signal.
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I do believe I see a travel, but not before a PC.

To call a block and count the basket is incorrect imho.
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Nor I. PC for me.

What exactly was the call, though? The official signaled block, then pointed the other way? Announcer said "charge?"
He was using something similar to the NCAA-W score-the-goal signal (which I see a lot of men's officials use), as opposed to the by-the-book NCAA-M signal (not sure if I've actually ever seen someone use it outside of a HS or juco game) for that.
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Old Tue Feb 03, 2015, 03:09pm
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I wouldn't have been able to get that travel in real time.

I've got a PC foul.

If he calls a block, with the NCAA change to "upward motion" being the start of the shooting motion, this would be a foul before the shot.
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I wouldn't have been able to get that travel in real time.

I've got a PC foul.

If he calls a block, with the NCAA change to "upward motion" being the start of the shooting motion, this would be a foul before the shot.
I think the "travel" posts are in reference to the fact that by the time he released the shot he had traveled, so we shouldn't be counting the basket.
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