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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:12pm
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great no-call. I love it!
I hate the whole call a foul because there was a collision. That's just good D here.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:36pm
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great no-call. I love it!
I hate the whole call a foul because there was a collision. That's just good D here.
That is a lot of contact to not call something. I agree that I am not a fan of just making any call just because there is contact, but this was not one of those situations where you can pass on this and certainly not one John Adams has advocated to no-call.

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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:46pm
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when I freeze it at 21 seconds I see the Defender set. I also see the offensive player taking off, from the side so it is different from some other charging calls. To me it is the same time which is why I like the no-call. I thought the D made a good play. As did the offensive player who was taking it into the lane(perhaps he should have faded away though!). Why should I penalize either when it is so close as is the case here?

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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:59pm
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when I freeze it at 21 seconds I see the Defender set.
C'mon...does no one else see the humor here...
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:27pm
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c'mon...does no one else see the humor here... :d

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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:34pm
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you'd have to pause it at 21 seconds, 1.4 left to see what I meant by his body being parallel. I thought it was just unusual seeing his body almost sideways like that, not relevant to the foul though.


Well zm1283. Why don't you say what you think of the play.
I thought the no-call was correct and a fantastic job by the refs to hold the whistle.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 02:15pm
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you'd have to pause it at 21 seconds, 1.4 left to see what I meant by his body being parallel. I thought it was just unusual seeing his body almost sideways like that, not relevant to the foul though.
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You brought up A1 being parallel in conjunction with changing your mind on the play, and deeming it a block. So most intelligent people are going to infer that observation as having significance to your ruling. If it is not relevant, then don't throw the comment in their randomly.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:47pm
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great no-call. I love it!
I hate the whole call a foul because there was a collision. That's just good D here.
Well, if someone plays good defense and gets run over or displaced, there is also the option of calling a foul on the offense.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:55pm
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actually when I break it down more I think a block call could have been right. My first choice remains the no-call. Second block.
I ran it at full speed then the slo-mo. The offensive player is going for the shot before the defender is set. The space between them is hard to determine but I'd have no problem with the blocking call here.
freeze it at 12, then play, freeze, repeat 2 times at 13 seconds. Offensive player at one point is almost parallel to the floor.
then slo-mo at 20 and 21.

It is a very difficult play to call.

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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 09:03pm
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actually when I break it down more I think a block call could have been right. My first choice remains the no-call. Second block.
I ran it at full speed then the slo-mo. The offensive player is going for the shot before the defender is set. The space between them is hard to determine but I'd have no problem with the blocking call here.
freeze it at 12, then play, freeze, repeat 2 times at 13 seconds. Offensive player at one point is almost parallel to the floor.
then slo-mo at 20 and 21.

It is a very difficult play to call.
What is the significance of A1 almost being parallel to the floor? Are you saying he got bumped from behind?
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 09:07pm
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nah just that he contorted his body/took off from an unusual place.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 09:31pm
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nah just that he contorted his body/took off from an unusual place.
Huh?

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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 10:51pm
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 09:26pm
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The offensive player is going for the shot before the defender is set.
What does this mean? You only need to determine whether the defender had a legal position prior to the offensive player being airborne...both feet off the floor. The defender doesn't have to be legal before the offensive player is going for the shot as this occurs well before the offensive player is airborne.
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