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mutantducky Mon Jan 26, 2015 09:07pm

nah just that he contorted his body/took off from an unusual place.

APG Mon Jan 26, 2015 09:26pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 952307)
The offensive player is going for the shot before the defender is set.

What does this mean? You only need to determine whether the defender had a legal position prior to the offensive player being airborne...both feet off the floor. The defender doesn't have to be legal before the offensive player is going for the shot as this occurs well before the offensive player is airborne.

JRutledge Mon Jan 26, 2015 09:31pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 952311)
nah just that he contorted his body/took off from an unusual place.

Huh?

Peace

Rich Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:51pm

The more I read, the dumber I get.

zm1283 Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:03am

Why do you guys even bother with him?

jeremy341a Tue Jan 27, 2015 01:27pm

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Originally Posted by danvrapp (Post 952308)
c'mon...does no one else see the humor here... :d


haha :)

mutantducky Tue Jan 27, 2015 01:34pm

you'd have to pause it at 21 seconds, 1.4 left to see what I meant by his body being parallel. I thought it was just unusual seeing his body almost sideways like that, not relevant to the foul though.


Well zm1283. Why don't you say what you think of the play.
I thought the no-call was correct and a fantastic job by the refs to hold the whistle.

Raymond Tue Jan 27, 2015 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky (Post 952423)
you'd have to pause it at 21 seconds, 1.4 left to see what I meant by his body being parallel. I thought it was just unusual seeing his body almost sideways like that, not relevant to the foul though.
....

You brought up A1 being parallel in conjunction with changing your mind on the play, and deeming it a block. So most intelligent people are going to infer that observation as having significance to your ruling. If it is not relevant, then don't throw the comment in their randomly.

twocentsworth Tue Jan 27, 2015 03:01pm

I can see why the UNI coach would be upset - that's a Player Control foul.

I can also see why the Il St. coach would be upset - that's an absolutely terrible decision by his PG to take that kind of contested shot. I'm sure they teach players to use a jump stop in practice!

zm1283 Tue Jan 27, 2015 03:21pm

I have a PC foul. I thought the same thing when I watched it on TV.

AremRed Tue Jan 27, 2015 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 952457)
I can see why the UNI coach would be upset - that's a Player Control foul.

Why would he be upset? The ball didn't go in.

twocentsworth Thu Jan 29, 2015 02:08pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 952467)
Why would he be upset? The ball didn't go in.

AremRed, unfortunately you missed the vast amount of sarcasm that was used in that statement.

IMHO, the reason why there was no whistle on the play was that the Player Control Foul (which was pretty obvious to see) occurred so close to the expiration of time that there was no reason to have a whistle as the horn sounded prior to the official making the call. Take that same play and have it occur w/ more time on the clock, and you'll have Lead call a PC foul.

jeremy341a Thu Jan 29, 2015 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 952751)
AremRed, unfortunately you missed the vast amount of sarcasm that was used in that statement.

IMHO, the reason why there was no whistle on the play was that the Player Control Foul (which was pretty obvious to see) occurred so close to the expiration of time that there was no reason to have a whistle as the horn sounded prior to the official making the call. Take that same play and have it occur w/ more time on the clock, and you'll have Lead call a PC foul.

What happens when the shot goes in? Is going to then wipe it off and go PC?


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