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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 05:36pm
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Yup. APG's case play is spot on. Soooooo...the officials should have recognized that they allowed the teams to line up the wrong way after the first basket by Team 2. So stop the game there, give the points to Team 2, and then march all the way to the other end of the court and give Team 1 an endline throw-in under Team 1's basket.

Instead, the officials essentially failed to acknowledge that they had erred, stating that Team 2 erred by scoring at the opponent's basket and crediting the points to Team 1. And they compounded the problem by giving the ball right back to Team 2 under Team 2's basket.

I guess it's sorta good that they eventually agreed to the option of re-starting the game, even though technically they should not have done so (there's no rule provision for this). It meant they recognized that they had messed up to begin the game by lining up the teams the wrong way. But this error should have been corrected immediately upon recognition after that first Team 2 basket; that would have saved a lot of additional embarrassment.

But the crew shouldn't feel too bad. A Karl Hess crew messed up this same rule at a game at Marquette a few years ago.
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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 06:23pm
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Instead, the officials essentially failed to acknowledge that they had erred, stating that Team 2 erred by scoring at the opponent's basket and crediting the points to Team 1. And they compounded the problem by giving the ball right back to Team 2 under Team 2's basket.
Sounds to me like the officials immediately noticed the problem, but maybe did a poor job of explaining it. They scored the points for team 1, then correctly gave the ball back to team 2, I assume under the same basket they had just scored in, but apparently they inbounded and scored in that same basket again.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 05:42pm
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Sounds to me like the officials immediately noticed the problem, but maybe did a poor job of explaining it. They scored the points for team 1, then correctly gave the ball back to team 2, I assume under the same basket they had just scored in, but apparently they inbounded and scored in that same basket again.
Nothing about what they did is correct.

If they scored Team 1's bucket for Team 2, they recognized their mistake and needed to give the ball to TEAM 1. If they didn't recognize the mistake at this point, then Team 2 just scored in the wrong bucket.
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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 06:35pm
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But the crew shouldn't feel too bad. A Karl Hess crew messed up this same rule at a game at Marquette a few years ago.
Maybe now that he has lots of free time, he's officiating middle school games.
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Old Sun Jan 25, 2015, 06:41pm
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Maybe now that he has lots of free time, he's officiating middle school games.
Him and Boroski, best middle school crew in the nation!
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:30am
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Yeah, but what the Hess crew did on top of that is that they had a goaltending call that would've been for Connecticut and they wiped that and didn't score it as if nothing happened. . .

I totally remember that game - Ollie from UConn kept asking why the score for the goaltend didn't count?
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 08:22am
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Maybe now that he has lots of free time, he's officiating middle school games.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 03:15pm
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That's the 2nd middle school game I've heard of this season that had that exact scenario happen in a game....It doesn't surprise me that the same officials who allowed teams to line up in the wrong direction don't know how to administer the rule to resolve this situation. That's EXACTLY why they're working those middle school games....
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