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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 10:12pm
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Baylor @ OK State Block/Charge (Video)

17:59 in 2nd half.

Block/charge/travel play.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:11pm
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:13pm
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One could also discuss whether under NCAA-M interpretation, whether this should have been in the act of shooting. Should the center have provided information to the calling official (assuming he had any)? Would you give that information to the calling official if you were in the C's position (assuming you had it before the act)?
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 05:30pm
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The pivot foot returns to the floor before the ball is released.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 06:47pm
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The pivot foot returns to the floor before the ball is released.
Right foot pivot. Never comes back down.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 07:35pm
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Right foot pivot. Never comes back down.
Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:54pm
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One could also discuss whether under NCAA-M interpretation, whether this should have been in the act of shooting. Should the center have provided information to the calling official (assuming he had any)? Would you give that information to the calling official if you were in the C's position (assuming you had it before the act)?
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 08:55pm
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only if the asked
Would time and score change your opinion? I'm also guessing who your assignor is would change that as well?
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Old Sat Jan 31, 2015, 09:52pm
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Holding the ball in two hands with the left foot on the floor outside the 3 point line.
Agree....he has the ball in both hands with it above his head with his left foot still on the ground. Left foot is the pivot. Travel.

But he was fouled first....and it was a block.
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I thought it was a travel when first watching it, but the contact does happen before his left foot (Which was his pivot foot) comes back down to the floor.

Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.

Anyone think the Lead was too wide?
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 03:39pm
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I have a charge on this play. Don't see what the defender did wrong.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 03:42pm
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I thought it was a travel when first watching it, but the contact does happen before his left foot (Which was his pivot foot) comes back down to the floor.

Those that have a block...why? Not disagreeing yet, just interested in your reasoning.

Anyone think the Lead was too wide?
He was still running up the court in transition, with players beside him. Where would you preferred he go?

BTW, I think it was a PC.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 03:45pm
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He was still running up the court in transition, with players beside him. Where would you preferred he go?

BTW, I think it was a PC.
I think it is a PC foul too.

The Lead pulls up around the FT line extended and coasts the rest of the way to the endline. Would anyone rather see this play coming at them instead of looking at it from the side?
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I think it is a PC foul too.

The Lead pulls up around the FT line extended and coasts the rest of the way to the endline. Would anyone rather see this play coming at them instead of looking at it from the side?
Even at full speed he wasn't going to make it to the endline in time to receive the play. He would have been putting on the brakes just as contact was occurring.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 04:06pm
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Even at full speed he wasn't going to make it to the endline in time to receive the play. He would have been putting on the brakes just as contact was occurring.
Exactly. Even the fastest guys get caught out sometimes and have to make a tough decision from a bad angle. I think if Lead was watching the defender the whole time then I think he would have had a charge even from his angle.
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