Who do you get.

[Kansas Ref]

No need to extend that game any longer, let that player take her seat on the bench and allow the game to end. From your description it sounded like th game was long over, no need for you to experience additional stress. I'd have just let the game end--the pounding by the other team served as the further 'punishment'. Man, sorry you had to experience such

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

No need to extend that game any longer, let that player take her seat on the bench and allow the game to end. From your description it sounded like th game was long over, no need for you to experience additional stress. I'd have just let the game end--the pounding by the other team served as the further 'punishment'. Man, sorry you had to experience such

So just because a team is getting worked our job changes? I mean we can maybe alter advantage/disadvantage somewhat but letting ass-hats act like ass-hats because the game is over is a joke.

Originally Posted by bainsey

"Coach, you have to calm her down or get her out of here. If she gets one more T, by rule, you have to leave."

Why? She already received 1 T. This is a varsity game, the coach shouldn't need a reminder from us to get his players under control in this circumstance. I personally wouldn't add this.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by deecee

So just because a team is getting worked our job changes? I mean we can maybe alter advantage/disadvantage somewhat but letting ass-hats act like ass-hats because the game is over is a joke.

I agree with this. I think sometimes people forget this is high school we're dealing with. Kids don't get to behave like morons and get away with it just because the game is a blowout. The coach had plenty of opportunities when the other T's were handed out to players to call a timeout and demand the kids change their behavior. Players have much less rope for me than coaches. I have no tolerance for BS from players.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I agree with this. I think sometimes people forget this is high school we're dealing with. Kids don't get to behave like morons and get away with it just because the game is a blowout. The coach had plenty of opportunities when the other T's were handed out to players to call a timeout and demand the kids change their behavior. Players have much less rope for me than coaches. I have no tolerance for BS from players.

There is also the school of thought that it's better for them to "learn their lesson" in a game where the T doesn't really cost them anything -- it doesn't matter whether they lose by 38 or by 40.

It might help them in a close game to keep their composure.

[griblets]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I agree with this. I think sometimes people forget this is high school we're dealing with. Kids don't get to behave like morons and get away with it just because the game is a blowout. The coach had plenty of opportunities when the other T's were handed out to players to call a timeout and demand the kids change their behavior. Players have much less rope for me than coaches. I have no tolerance for BS from players.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There is also the school of thought that it's better for them to "learn their lesson" in a game where the T doesn't really cost them anything -- it doesn't matter whether they lose by 38 or by 40.

It might help them in a close game to keep their composure.

These two takes should not be taken lightly. High school basketball is an educational environment. Like it or not, officials play a role in that. Lessons that players learn in games shape them for life. Being held accountable for one's own actions is a life lesson that should not be withheld from the player simply due to the score of a game.

[jTheUmp]

Given how the OP describe the situation, I'd probably have handled it exactly the way the OP did.

With that said, when I wrote up my incident report to the state (required when there's a player or coach ejection), I'd make a note that the coach was attempting to calm down the situation when the (unavoidable) 3rd indirect T was issued.

Maybe it helps his case when the state decides if coach needs to be suspended for the next game... maybe not (after all, there were several opportunities to avoid the first direct T and first indirect T).

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by deecee

Why? She already received 1 T. This is a varsity game, the coach shouldn't need a reminder from us to get his players under control in this circumstance. I personally wouldn't add this.

I'm not counting on the coach knowing about direct and indirect Ts. This particular group sounds ignorant enough already, and probably wasn't even aware of the indirect T. While I agree with the "no time for a clinic" mentality, it doesn't hurt to let a coach know where she stands, especially with unusual circumstances such as this.