Concentration on Opening Jump (Video)

[APG]

I think this is a good clip showing why one has to have a high level of concentration even to start the game:

[crosscountry55]

I concentrated, and I didn't hear a whistle, nor did I see a foul.

But let's say a jumper did commit a PF. Offended team gets the ball, offending team gets the arrow, correct?

[Valley Man]

He held the guy with the off arm. Actually had this 2 weeks ago and U2 got it for us! Offended team got the ball. Offending team got the arrow.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

He held the guy with the off arm.

Oh yeah! Blew up the screen and took a closer look. Yup. Good catch.

I suppose in this situation if you noticed time had run off the clock, you'd put it back on.

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I concentrated, and I didn't hear a whistle, nor did I see a foul.

But let's say a jumper did commit a PF. Offended team gets the ball, offending team gets the arrow, correct?

The offended team is awarded a designated-spot throw-in at the out-of-bounds spot nearest the foul. The alternating possession arrow is set in the direction of the offending team when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower (NCAA 4-9.6.b for the game in OP or NFHS 4-3-3c in most of our games).

[Raymond]

Unless it is blantantly obvious, leaving that alone.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Unless it is blantantly obvious, leaving that alone.

I agree but in this case G1 prevented R1 from having any opportunity to tap the ball, and used leverage from the foul to get a better opportunity himself. So I think a foul call would be appropriate here.

[APG]

While not the exact same situation, it's still a foul during the jump ball:

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I agree but in this case G1 prevented R1 from having any opportunity to tap the ball, and used leverage from the foul to get a better opportunity himself. So I think a foul call would be appropriate here.

It took multiple viewings for many of us to even notice the foul. This would fall into the category of "not obvious enough to call" for me.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by APG

I think this is a good clip showing why one has to have a high level of concentration even to start the game:

A foul by one of the jumpers is not unheard of. But what bothered me was the R talking way too long to make the toss. While just outside the circle, make sure the jumpers are ready, tell them you are coming in, sound your whistle, then all in one motion step and toss the ball. Don't hang the jumpers.

MTD, Sr.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

A foul by one of the jumpers is not unheard of. But what bothered me was the R talking way too long to make the toss. While just outside the circle, make sure the jumpers are ready, tell them you are coming in, sound your whistle, then all in one motion step and toss the ball. Don't hang the jumpers.

MTD, Sr.

What does "hanging the jumpers" hurt? I actually like his deliberate method as IMO it keeps the jumpers from timing the jump. Now they are reacting to the toss and not jumping as you are moving in and anticipating. This gets them jumping at the same time. When I see one trying to anticipate either the ball gets tossed and he gains a clear advantage of being off the floor first or the official holds and lets them both come up together. Never do they go ahead and toss it while the first jumper is on the way down when he is the only one anticipating. Therefore he gets a free chance to try and get the tip.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

What does "hanging the jumpers" hurt? I actually like his deliberate method as IMO it keeps the jumpers from timing the jump. Now they are reacting to the toss and not jumping as you are moving in and anticipating. This gets them jumping at the same time. When I see one trying to anticipate either the ball gets tossed and he gains a clear advantage of being off the floor first or the official holds and lets them both come up together. Never do they go ahead and toss it while the first jumper is on the way down when he is the only one anticipating. Therefore he gets a free chance to try and get the tip.

I tend to agree, though the case in the video was admittedly one of the longer hangs I've seen...a little too much for my taste.

I don't want the players anticipating and/or timing my toss any more than a hockey official wants two guys anticipating a face-off. Suspense adds some fairness to the process.